Two British Men Captured Fighting For Ukraine Sentenced To Death By Russian Court (legal, suspect)

[Neuling]

It's probably already been said, but it was not a Russian court...

[vincenze]

There are reports that Robert Drueke is not a mercenary, but a chemical and biological weapon specialist.

[erasure]

Originally Posted by Brave New World

Aslin joined the Ukrainian Army in 2018 and holds dual British and Ukrainian Citizenship, whilst Sean Pinner lives in Ukraine has a wife there.

NOT according to what Ukrainians in the know are saying, sorry.

‘They asked to be granted Ukrainian citizenship, and they were trying to obtain it, but they were not able to receive it because of the bureaucratic system’, Ihor stated. He added that according to the law, a person who has served for 3 years can apply for a residence permit, but they did not get it."

https://bykvu.com/eng/bukvy/they-app...other-in-arms/

[Brave New World]

Originally Posted by erasure

NOT according to what Ukrainians in the know are saying, sorry.

‘They asked to be granted Ukrainian citizenship, and they were trying to obtain it, but they were not able to receive it because of the bureaucratic system’, Ihor stated. He added that according to the law, a person who has served for 3 years can apply for a residence permit, but they did not get it."

https://bykvu.com/eng/bukvy/they-app...other-in-arms/

Both were members of the Ukrainian regular military, serving in the 36th Marine Infantry Brigade,

Aslin joined in 2018, long before the war started.

That makes the men members of the Ukrainian Armed forces and not mercenaries.

If I joined the French Foreign Legion, I would be considered to be a member of the French Army and not a mercenaries.

Similarly Gurkhas and other personnel from overseas who join the British Army and British Soldiers and not mercenaries.

The UN is even warning Russia it is breaking the Geneva Convention in relation to PoW's.

It is however unlikely they will be executed and a swap of some sort in relation to personnel is the most likely scenario.

[Ruth4Truth]

Originally Posted by 1AngryTaxPayer

If you are gonna do this don't give up. Why go in and then surrender?

Who said they surrendered?

[Ruth4Truth]

Originally Posted by Brave New World

By all accounts they were long-serving members of the Ukrainian military and not mercenaries, and were captured, so did not surrender.

This breaks international law and the Geneva Convention in relation to Prisoners of War (PoW's).

Russia has violated the Geneva Convention throughout the war. So has Ukraine according to some reports.

[Brave New World]

Originally Posted by Ruth4Truth

Russia has violated the Geneva Convention throughout the war. So has Ukraine according to some reports.

In reality they will probably be used as leverage and at some point swapped for Russian military personnel or Russian spies.

This was usually been the case during the Cold War, when Putin's comrades in the KGB were often exchanged.

Russia has nothing to gain by shooting POW's, and such an act would be internationally condemned and may even been condemned by the Russian Orthodox Church that Putin is so fond of. It would also play in to the hands of those plotting against Putin.

[Oklazona Bound]

Originally Posted by Brave New World

Two Britons and a Moroccan Man have been sentenced to death by a Russian Court.

All three men were charged with being mercenaries, the violent seizure of power and undergoing training to carry out terrorist activities.

Russia is tougher on their insurrectionists than we are.

[Brave New World]

Originally Posted by MrCoffee57

You believe that story? What evidence is there besides the word of the Ukrainians or British press trying to rescue them?

Let them die by firing squad. Who cares about mercs. Maybe some public executions will dampen that soldier of fortune spirit !

Go and troll elsewhere.

[Brave New World]

Originally Posted by Oklazona Bound

Russia is tougher on their insurrectionists than we are.

Putin won't execute them because he won't want the damaging fall out, and the fact it would give his allies ammunition.

Furthermore they are useful leverage, and you don't throw away your best cards when playing poker.

Putin may be many things but stupid is not one of them.