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Old 06-11-2022, 10:22 AM
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If he can make it to the ballot. A constitutional question could arise as to whether he is eligible to become president due to his conduct leading up to, on and following Jan. 6.
You obviously can't imagine how idiotic that appears to normal people. Its one of the reasons Dems keep dropping in the polls. Pelosi & Co. keep talking about that while we have stagflation not seen since Jimmy, shortages of many goods, an uncontrolled border and uncontrolled crime sprees in our cities.
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Old 06-11-2022, 11:45 AM
 
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Do the parties understand the people? This issues only appeal to the fringes of their own party


  • Republicans - stolen election
  • Democrats - January 6
I thought you were going to say Guns and Abortion. I am not on either side. I have yet to see any real evidence of this stolen election. Certainly the courts agree with me as well as the SCOTUS. I am all for believing it if there was any actual proof.

And without all this stolen election chatter there would not have been a January 6th. Difference being January 6th did happen we all saw it live. The Dems are using it against the GOP because for whatever reason Trump would not tell them to stop while it was happening and too many GOP want to defend rioters even to this day. If GOP leaders in unison on January 7th said what happened way wrong and as the law and order party we need to lock up who were involved. They dems would have nothing to say.

January 6th was self inflicted both when it happened and its aftermath.
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Old 06-11-2022, 02:55 PM
 
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Liberal wet dreams.

The thing that libs don't understand is that there are far, far more conservative candidates than Trump who would make the average liberal's heads explode.

One hopes that the libs get their wish and we get a much, much more conservative POTUS than Trump in 2024. Then the libs will have a new icon to which they can vent their hate. It is a cure for TDS- replace it with another irrational hatred.
Hatred of Trump is not irrational. The man is a complete lunatic, and utterly unqualified to be President of the US.
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Old 06-11-2022, 03:24 PM
 
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Hatred of Trump is not irrational. The man is a complete lunatic, and utterly unqualified to be President of the US.
Looks like you misspelled "Biden"

common mistake
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Old 06-11-2022, 04:20 PM
 
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Looks like you misspelled "Biden"

common mistake
Nope. I did not misspell anything. Trump is a worthless piece of garbage, and in a just world he, and his useless children, would be homeless and begging on the street. Or in prison.

Trump was completely incompetent, driven by his need to have his ego stroked by everyone. It is my fervent desire to meet him one day and shout "You are a loser" to his face.

I am not a huge fan of Biden, but he's not a total loser like Trump. Nor is he driven by an inflated ego. Nor does he think his gut is smarter than any expert. Unlike Trump, who would not listen when advisors told him that he could not meet his policy goals by breaking the law. Trump does not care about the law, since he thinks it should not apply to him.
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Old 06-11-2022, 05:13 PM
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Hatred of Trump is not irrational. The man is a complete lunatic, and utterly unqualified to be President of the US.
The behavior and language of those who hate President Trump is most certainly irrational. Many with TDS should really seek psychological help.
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Old 06-11-2022, 05:18 PM
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Nope. I did not misspell anything. Trump is a worthless piece of garbage, and in a just world he, and his useless children, would be homeless and begging on the street. Or in prison.

Trump was completely incompetent, driven by his need to have his ego stroked by everyone. It is my fervent desire to meet him one day and shout "You are a loser" to his face.

I am not a huge fan of Biden, but he's not a total loser like Trump. Nor is he driven by an inflated ego. Nor does he think his gut is smarter than any expert. Unlike Trump, who would not listen when advisors told him that he could not meet his policy goals by breaking the law. Trump does not care about the law, since he thinks it should not apply to him.
President Trump ALWAYS followed the law. When he made suggestions that weren't within the law and his legal advisors told him that, he changed. When courts ruled against him, he followed the courts.

Biden will publicly say what he is doing is not legal and do it anyway. He's done it several times
and basically dared the courts to stop him.

As for President Trump's incompetence:
Low inflation
Lowest unemployment since 1969
Lowest Black unemployment ever
Increase in manufacturing jobs
Self sufficiency in fossil fuels for first time in decades
Lowest level of illegal immigration in decades
Got Covid vaccines done in record time

Not a direct correlation, but I'm reminded of President Lincoln's comment when told General Grant was a drunk. "Let me know what brand of bourbon he drinks and I'll send a barrel to all my generals."
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Old 06-11-2022, 05:20 PM
 
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It'll never be a dead end to have transparent elections with solid rules in place to ensure that "cheating that never happens" actually never happens. We don't have that now and we desperately need it. There's way too many instances of election results being wrong to ignore this for another second. And it's always wrong for the Dems, which adds a whole other layer to things. Maybe it's not cheating, but it looks like cheating and the country can't survive the optics.

As far as Jan 6 goes it was a bad situation but not an insurrection and Trump didn't plan it to overthrow democracy or whatever the heck the 1/6 committee narrative is. What he and other people DID want was to postpone making the final call until some of the shady situations around the election itself could be addressed. See above.
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Old 06-11-2022, 05:29 PM
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It'll never be a dead end to have transparent elections with solid rules in place to ensure that "cheating that never happens" actually never happens. We don't have that now and we desperately need it. There's way too many instances of election results being wrong to ignore this for another second. And it's always wrong for the Dems, which adds a whole other layer to things. Maybe it's not cheating, but it looks like cheating and the country can't survive the optics.

As far as Jan 6 goes it was a bad situation but not an insurrection and Trump didn't plan it to overthrow democracy or whatever the heck the 1/6 committee narrative is. What he and other people DID want was to postpone making the final call until some of the shady situations around the election itself could be addressed. See above.
There's a thread about the disaster in a Democratic primary in Dekalb County, GA a couple weeks ago. The leader in the first count lost 1/3 of his votes and ended up 3rd. It wasn't noticed until the candidate in 3rd noticed she got no votes in her own precinct. 3000 of the 15000 votes weren't counted the first time.
Then they did a hand recount with absolute zero transparency, so I certainly don't have any faith that count was accurate either.

For 2020 its a loss to try to talk about reversing what happened, but its critical to investigate and punish those who did commit fraud. Both to use punishment to discourage future fraud and to find out how people cheated to stop it.
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Old 06-11-2022, 05:41 PM
 
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Nope. I did not misspell anything. Trump is a worthless piece of garbage, and in a just world he, and his useless children, would be homeless and begging on the street. Or in prison.

Trump was completely incompetent, driven by his need to have his ego stroked by everyone. It is my fervent desire to meet him one day and shout "You are a loser" to his face.

I am not a huge fan of Biden, but he's not a total loser like Trump. Nor is he driven by an inflated ego. Nor does he think his gut is smarter than any expert. Unlike Trump, who would not listen when advisors told him that he could not meet his policy goals by breaking the law. Trump does not care about the law, since he thinks it should not apply to him.
lol - you keep repeating the same mistake. I think there's a pill for that.
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