FL Governor DeSantis to crack down on parents who send their kids to Drag Queen shows (radical, parties)
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I will agree that the participation of what happened in Calif or Texas on that video was wrong. What I’m saying is stop at the gate - no minors allowed. We have laws that if liquor is served can’t get in under 21 at a strip bar. So hooters ? It serves food, the Moose or American Legion serves food and kids always welcomed, full bars and slots machines etc. Lots of gambling going on. So nobody is naked at a drag show. Kids stopped from dancing at regular clubs. Must be 21 yrs old so What is the deal?
Agreed. My dad use to take me to American legion and VFW clubs when I was young, I sat there with a soda and played pool and darts with everybody while they drank alcohol. No big deal. Now those clubs aren't the same genre as say a drag show, but as long as it is about fashion dancing and comedy and not sexual I don't see a issue.
The differences some are believing, is drag shows are immoral by nature , which is their right to believe, and those that believe that as long as it is not sexual in nature and kids aren't participating well then whatever.
Agreed. My dad use to take me to American legion and VFW clubs when I was young, I sat there with a soda and played pool and darts with everybody while they drank alcohol. No big deal. Now those clubs aren't the same genre as say a drag show, but as long as it is about fashion dancing and comedy and not sexual I don't see a issue.
The differences some are believing, is drag shows are immoral by nature , which is their right to believe, and those that believe that as long as it is not sexual in nature and kids aren't participating well then whatever.
I was 22 when a friend said something about going out. Military town. I was so naive. I bet her a night of paying for drinks that the woman serving us was indeed a female. I was wrong and I was in shock - I never knew this existed besides the funny tv shows or movies. In any case, we hit every drag and gay club in the city. I learned a lot. In no instance was there any nudity or sex acts. Zero adult language yes, but the show or performance is what it’s all about. I’m very straight and so was she and it really opened my mind. People are just people. Not everything is evil trying to get you.
Based on that statement, your only issue appears to be that he making that statement when there is no law that prevents it. So if a law gets put in place you would have no issue with parents being investigated by CPS.
Did you feel the say way when he put in restrictions about not talking about sexual topics with kids in K-3?
You want to protect kids from what ? A conversation a show or sex ? I’m for teachers answering questions about Sex or body with age appropriate answers. I’ve said it many times. Too many Parents are ratchet - drugs alcohol etc in Fl. Kids should be able to go to any teacher with any concerns.
You threatened teachers w law suits. The Governor plus. -not you - personally.
Now if a blended family wants to take a kid to a drag show- you threaten the parents with jail.
To enter a dance club or gentlemen’s bar you must be 21. But you can take the 5 yr old to Hooters. You like the shows with the little gals with heavy make up and/ or cheerleading with gals legs wide open in the air. There’s no problem. Where does the moral compass stop? Only if it involves gays or others? I’m thinking The Gov needs to come out of the closet.
Should tootsie, hairspray, victor victoria and the birdcage be for adults only? Do they send the wrong message? Mrs doubtfire?
How about Rocky horror picture show- which has been a cult classic for teenagers for 50 years?
Should tootsie, hairspray, victor victoria and the birdcage be for adults only? Do they send the wrong message? Mrs doubtfire?
How about Rocky horror picture show- which has been a cult classic for teenagers for 50 years?
Nice Try....
Tootsie - Was actually more about Women's rights and discrimination than sexualizing "Drag". It also was not aimed at kids.
Hairspray- The main theme here was Racial Discrimination. The only thing "Drag" about that was the mother is traditionally played by a man. Again, nothing sexualizing Drag or pushing it on kids.
Victor/Victoria and The Birdcage - These are probably the closest comparison. But when they were released they were not being promoted towards kids.
Mrs. Doubtfile - Probably the only movie of your list that you could say was aimed at kids. However, there was nothing "sexualizing" Drag. The main theme is more about family. Don't think you can say the same thing about a "Drag Show".
Rockey Horror Picture Show - Rated "R" and I don't think I ever saw a showing before 10PM. Hardly something you could say is aimed at younger kids.
Tootsie - Was actually more about Women's rights and discrimination than sexualizing "Drag". It also was not aimed at kids.
Hairspray- The main theme here was Racial Discrimination. The only thing "Drag" about that was the mother is traditionally played by a man. Again, nothing sexualizing Drag or pushing it on kids.
Victor/Victoria and The Birdcage - These are probably the closest comparison. But when they were released they were not being promoted towards kids.
Mrs. Doubtfile - Probably the only movie of your list that you could say was aimed at kids. However, there was nothing "sexualizing" Drag. The main theme is more about family. Don't think you can say the same thing about a "Drag Show".
Rockey Horror Picture Show - Rated "R" and I don't think I ever saw a showing before 10PM. Hardly something you could say is aimed at younger kids.
The shows are for all to see. Parents used to decide what they could or couldn’t watch. Those are old shows. Now Sex is in everything. We cannot stop the internet, nor the music or TV. The Kardash are terrible role models. But the issue here is not sex content it’s the LGBTQ issue. It’s the type of sex they can be exposed to.
Now it’s Lizzo and RuPaul - kids know who they are and they don’t care really. Personally I think it’s crazy that you think a child will turn gay or binary or whatever by watching a show.
When it comes to children, it's a thornier question.
Unlike adults, children are protected by both their parents/guardians and the state. The state basically tells the guardians what they can and cannot do with their children.
The gun debate is about taking certain guns away from anyone - be they law abiding or not.
The two are not comparable. One says X is intrinsically harmful and we will protect Y by punishing Z if they expose Y to X. The other says, since someone may abuse X we will ban X for everyone, regardless of what they do and if they do nothing wrong with X.
To make them comparable, DeSantis would ban drag shows across Florida out of the risk some parents may drag their kids to one. This would apply to everyone, regardless if they have kids or not and regardless how responsibly they behave with the drag show.
Anyways, DeSantis hasn't passed or even suggested a law. He hinted social services may investigate. Which means basically nothing, except intimidation. Taking your kids to a drag bar wouldn't cause social services to take away your kids, instead they may do a home visit and see if everything is on the up and up.
I'm against this btw, as I'm against essentially all morality laws. This should be left up to the parents. But we don't leave this up to the parents now.
Anyways, this is much ruckus over nothing. When (and if) a legislation gets proposed, we can talk about it then.
DeSantis has a record of shoving bills up our a$$ before anyone can even debate the issue. If he can make a law against LGTBQ he will. Tampa has the most gentlemen’s clubs in Fl, and big problem with underage and human trafficking but that’s not where his efforts are.
The shows are for all to see. Parents used to decide what they could or couldn’t watch. Those are old shows. Now Sex is in everything. We cannot stop the internet, nor the music or TV. The Kardash are terrible role models. But the issue here is not sex content it’s the LGBTQ issue. It’s the type of sex they can be exposed to.
Now it’s Lizzo and RuPaul - kids know who they are and they don’t care really. Personally I think it’s crazy that you think a child will turn gay or binary or whatever by watching a show.
Please show me one post where I stated any such thing.
I find it odd that trannies and drag queens want to perform for children. Just as I find it odd that a lesbian or gay teacher feels a need to come out to the students. These are not well people.
Many Floridians side with DeSantis that although they encourage parental rights, parents who are not responsible do not deserve those privileges as parents
What would you propose be an appropriate criminal sentence for a new law disallowing parents to bring their children to drag shows?
Nope. I don't agree with those parents, but I agree less with government dictating where parents can bring their kids, provided they aren't taking them into a bar/tavern/nightclub, because we already have the "21 and older" law.
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