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Long before that too, he cleaned up Time Square as well .
No he didn't. The revitalization of Times Square was started by Ed Koch in 1980 with implementation of "The 42nd Street Development Land Improvement Project" look it up.
I was wondering where all the liberals and democrats were. I haven't seen them posting much in any of the threads on the economy, the stock market, the shortages, gas prices, mortgage rates, inflation, food prices, foreign policy, border crisis and many more.
Good to know they are still alive, though I don't understand why they have nothing to say on all the important topics.
We have plenty to say but we don't usually say it here.
I already skimmed through it. The charge is based on the idea that Giuliani promoted 'unsubstantiated' claims of fraud in the state of Pennsylvania. It neglected to clarify how the state's highest court ...
Nope. The charges are about what Rudy did or did not do. One does not get to re-litigate some underlying matter. You're just off here.
Giuliani wanted to invalidate legitimate votes only in democrat majority counties in PA. Read below what the federal judge said about it in 2020. 37 pages rebuking all of Guilianis claims. He was clearly trying to "find the votes" for Trump. If he did not parade fake whistleblowers making up fake stuff about Dominion, etc I might feel like he is being picked on here. But he threw everything but the kitchen sink at trying to make the case that Trump won, regardless if his claims had any basis in fact. And facts were few and far between. He should not be allowed to practice law anywhere ever again.
You mean his interests were focused primarily in Philadelphia where they halted the counting procedure in the middle of the night as was symptomatic of so many urban centres throughout the key states of the nation? A county which notoriously depicted certain ballot counters and observers being put out of the counting room? The notion that Giuliani was endeavouring to dismiss 7 million votes which, to my knowledge, the crux of Giuliani's complaints stemmed from the postal ballot entries is gross hyperbole. Statistically there were 2.6 million mail in ballots that were counted, mind you with 1.8 million purportedly released originally. As per your article there was a restriction against 'curing' the ballots though it claims that Philadelphia County did in spite of the Democratic Party ofPennsylvania v. Boockvar decision though I'd be curious to see who was actually in charge of that considering their unscrupulous impromptu 'protocols' in removing particular observers in the counting room.
These whistle blowers who signed affidavits have nothing to gain by putting their careers and reputation on the line. If they perjure themselves then they can wind up in prison. If you're telling me those are fabrications then you're looking at a collective hive mind of individuals who should already be charged and waiting to be sentenced.
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You are raising two separate issues, Giuliani claimed that he dead people voted in the PA election and he had 900 death certificates to prove it which he never revealed to the court.
The fact that PA allowed no excuse voter ballots has been discussed ad nauseum, it had bipartisan support even prior to the 2020 election. It never became an issue until Trump lost PA and the GOP brought the court case essentially claiming they had violated the state constitution, the outcome is still pending. Problem is there is no credible proof that absentee voting would have change the outcome.
Giuliani has been on the demise since he lost the republican nomination for president, both his family and public life are a train wreck. Strangely he still had a radio show here in NY in the afternoon.
There have been lawsuits launched against counties over the matter of deceased people being on the voter rolls going back to February of 2020 when the Public Interest Legal Foundation launched its suit against Allegheny County. They filed a similar suit last year alleging that 21,000 deceased were on the voter rolls. County officials themselves have admitted they sent out multiple ballots to the same address but don't know how many. So this isn't just Giuliani lobbing excrements at a wall to see what sticks.
Do you think that just because a politician is part of the GOP that makes them ideologically opposed to whatever the Democrats support? Political balkanisation has been worsening for decades now but a number of issues there can be majority or even universal support for a policy.
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Nope. The charges are about what Rudy did or did not do. One does not get to re-litigate some underlying matter. You're just off here.
Do you mean like file suits pursuant to the decertification of the election on the basis of universal unscrutinised ballot acceptance? As acknowledged previously the officials themselves admit to having released duplicate ballots to the same addresses and couldn't determine how many were actually sent as a whole. These judiciary officials dismiss the case absent of recognising what it is their own state's officials attest to or the alleged statistics of those who were deceased yet still remain listed on the voter rolls years after their passing. It's an unwitting lack of insight at best.
These whistle blowers who signed affidavits have nothing to gain by putting their careers and reputation on the line. If they perjure themselves then they can wind up in prison. If you're telling me those are fabrications then you're looking at a collective hive mind of individuals who should already be charged and waiting to be sentenced.
There have been lawsuits launched against counties over the matter of deceased people being on the voter rolls going back to February of 2020 when the Public Interest Legal Foundation launched its suit against Allegheny County. They filed a similar suit last year alleging that 21,000 deceased were on the voter rolls. County officials themselves have admitted they sent out multiple ballots to the same address but don't know how many. So this isn't just Giuliani lobbing excrements at a wall to see what sticks.
Do you think that just because a politician is part of the GOP that makes them ideologically opposed to whatever the Democrats support? Political balkanisation has been worsening for decades now but a number of issues there can be majority or even universal support for a policy.
Anyone can sign an Affidavit saying they saw something, some were encouraged to do so.
Deceased people will always be on voter rolls, people who moved will also be on the voter rolls, it will never be completely accurate in any state. These are irregularities in every state, not massive fraud on a level to change the outcome of a state election.
But back to the point, Giuliani stated he had death certificates of people that voted, he never produced the documents.
The PA legislature approved no-excuse mail in balloting back in 2017 then after Trump lost they sued in court for an action they were part of, is that Balkanization. When the GOP attacks their own secretary of state as in the case of GA when he certified the vote was that Balkanization, when the Arizona GOP led senate accused the GOP Board of Supervisors in Maricopa County of faulty voting procedures was that Balkanization, or were they just interested in a fair voting process.
Anyone can sign an Affidavit saying they saw something, some were encouraged to do so.
Deceased people will always be on voter rolls, people who moved will also be on the voter rolls, it will never be completely accurate in any state. These are irregularities in every state, not massive fraud on a level to change the outcome of a state election.
But back to the point, Giuliani stated he had death certificates of people that voted, he never produced the documents.
The PA legislature approved no-excuse mail in balloting back in 2017 then after Trump lost they sued in court for an action they were part of, is that Balkanization. When the GOP attacks their own secretary of state as in the case of GA when he certified the vote was that Balkanization, when the Arizona GOP led senate accused the GOP Board of Supervisors in Maricopa County of faulty voting procedures was that Balkanization, or were they just interested in a fair voting process.
Except there's still the ever present reality of criminal prosecution for falsified statements under oath and the potential for counter suits on the basis of defamatory material. Was Gregory Stenstrom 'encouraged' to come forward? I would be curious to know how it is that these signers apparently felt they could bypass criminal referrals just through some encouragement from the likes of Giuliani, regardless of his legal background or not.
It violates the National Voter Registration Act of 1993 when they fail to make a 'reasonable effort' to remove a person's name who is either deceased or has changed jurisdictions. In Allegheny County alone you had suits filed for 1600 deceased, 7500 duplicates, and 1100 missing date of births of those who were on the voter registry; even if that's in one of the most populated that's still in just one county alone. In Pennslyvania back in 2016 the margins of apparent victory were razor thin. In relation to that it's interesting how the Greens, a party whose votes they had likely siphoned off from the Democrats would have had just enough to put Clinton over the line, was banned by the state supreme court in 2020.
In Giuliani's defence, the FBI had proven to be less than forthcoming on these matters such as Melissa Carone's testimony or the insistence on Barr's part that the investigation into Jesse Morgan's claims be stopped while turning him over to them.
Honestly, yes. Instead of simply looking at the party affiliation look at their actions and who it is they have relations. The GA SOS for instance quite a hefty donation from Zuckerburg not too long before the 2020 election. A coincidence, I'm sure.
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