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Old 06-13-2022, 09:59 AM
 
Location: Palm Coast FL
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The doctors and psychologists are doing great disservice to these people by treating them as a number, all alike. They are treating the symptoms and not the problem.

It would be like treating all anorexics by doing liposuction.
Ahh, so the everyday man on the street is more knowledgeable about how to treat them than the professionals who have studied this and worked with them everyday? Not a very sound argument.
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Old 06-13-2022, 10:08 AM
 
Location: South of Heaven
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Sure there's some normalization and indoctrination involved but there's also the modern day "emo" kids trying to be edgier than their predecessors. Black lipstick and nail polish isn't cutting it anymore.
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Old 06-13-2022, 10:08 AM
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Ahh, so the everyday man on the street is more knowledgeable about how to treat them than the professionals who have studied this and worked with them everyday? Not a very sound argument.
Sheeple is what they call people who blindly follow so called experts. Common sense is not so common. Doctors are prone to Enron like (remember Enron-the "smartest guys in the room") group think.

They are also subject to cancel culture if they don't follow group think. There have been a number of articles out there about this.

And what they are doing now is not what they would have done 10 years ago. Its NOT because they have done science that showed that this works. Its because its trendy.

Someone is not happy with their body. Do you change their body or try to figure out why they are unhappy with their body?

Do you rush to chop off body parts of people with gender dysphoria? Do you do liposuction or cut out part of the stomach of a person with an eating disorder?

These so called experts are not treating these people as individual human beings. They are treating them as a type. And it shows. The suicide and depression rates of those after surgery are horrendous.
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Old 06-13-2022, 10:24 AM
 
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There are some interesting psychology articles about that.

They may transition and the law is on their side but society, in general, does not embrace them.

A hetero guy is not going to date a transgender female.
Gay guys want to date other gay guys, not a guy with female bits.

Many are socially isolated which leads to what you described above.

Made me think, who do trans people date? Do they even date anymore? Their assigned sex doesn't want them, the sex they changed to doesn't and other trans people don't want them.
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Old 06-13-2022, 10:43 AM
 
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Made me think, who do trans people date? Do they even date anymore? Their assigned sex doesn't want them, the sex they changed to doesn't and other trans people don't want them.
That's the current step in the trans activism campaign. Not enough to accept them, not enough to do unisex bathrooms and allow men to dominate women's athletics. Nope, the next step in "tolerance" is demanding that everyone rush out and date trans BECAUSE BIGOT!!

Understand, the whole reason young, disaffected people struggling with self-identity make these fashionable "outsider" group choices is, 9 times out of 10, to find like minded folks with whom to bump uglies, since for the teenager/early 20s individual, bumping uglies is like 99% of your waking thoughts.

Trans folks "choose their authentic identity" and then do the cosmetic routine to signal to other members of the fashion tribe that they are there, they are available, and woo hoo, let's get to authentically bumping our shared lived bumping uglies experience of much bumping ugly truth. THAT'S THE GAME.

And now, when they find out that even fewer people want to bump uglies with them than before, they are bummed the eff out, and since "self-identifying" gave them some bully power, now they want to flex that power and demand all of us date them, via shaming, societal guilt, transphobic accusation, etc to score that which they were seeking when they self-identified in the first place.

Pattern recognition time - trans activists who want to shout folks like me down and say that the only reason the massive 20-30x spike in trans identification has happened (and that it is totally regional to wherever Instagram and TikTok have the most power, both geographically and demographically) is because now all those trans folks that were always there now feel safe. Uh huh...sure. So why has the suicide, depression, and pharmaceutical dependence rate among that community gone UP since the world got so much more accepting and tolerant?

Here's why, for anyone being remotely curious - because these youngsters do it to feel fashionable and then hook up. But uh oh, this particular fashion of theirs makes them LESS desirable all the way around. They already struggled in the heterosexual dating scene, and now their self-identification has them on the outs with the homosexual dating scene, and oh no, even among the trans dating scene, there is still a fashion/attractiveness/beauty/popularity game going on, and they are on the outs there too. Brand new cosmetic peypey or vajayjay, and nobody to share it with. Bummer.

Soo....blame everyone else for being bigots, phobics, haters, etc. To me, trans is simply another checkbox on the body positivity checklist, where the bottom line of the whole freaking thing is shaming people into dating and sexing it up with people they don't find attractive.
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Old 06-13-2022, 10:48 AM
 
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Well a recent study shows that the percentage of young people identifying as transgender has doubled since 2017.
Well, with our government schools being used to manipulate the minds of innocent and impressionable grade school children, why wouldn't more begin to identify with that crowd?

See: More than $200,000 spent on drag queen shows at NYC schools: Report

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Old 06-13-2022, 11:01 AM
 
Location: Milwaukee, WI
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Made me think, who do trans people date? Do they even date anymore? Their assigned sex doesn't want them, the sex they changed to doesn't and other trans people don't want them.

There is a huge community of "trans-admirers", but for them going the all way out is a turn off.

There is a possibility of a true love, where a guy learns to love the person and accept possibility that there will be no children in future (adoption is an option though).
There are some who still prefer women and become a lesbian couple. With the possibility of having a common children.
There is a certain level of acceptance among fetishist and kinky community.
And then there's a possibility to date other transsexuals.



I am sure these are not the only options. So, the life is certainly not over. Although no one promised it would be easy.
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Old 06-13-2022, 11:13 AM
 
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Ahh, so the everyday man on the street is more knowledgeable about how to treat them than the professionals who have studied this and worked with them everyday? Not a very sound argument.
If you think all psychologists and psychiatrists are on the same page about the trans issue, think again.
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Old 06-13-2022, 11:15 AM
 
Location: Southeast US
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Interesting. The same people on this and other threads talking about kids being groomed by teachers are the same people who want to arm teachers with guns, correct?
nope.
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Old 06-13-2022, 11:16 AM
 
Location: Southeast US
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Maybe people with those allergies died because it wasn't diagnosed?
I'm pretty sure anaphylactic shock is rather obvious.
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