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Your son will certainly not prosper and do well when the American economy (and all the charitable organizations) is on its knees. So what kind of "nest egg" will be left for your son after Biden? You have voted to jeopardize your son's security and future. Keep that in mind the next time you vote democrat. Just who do you think benefits from the worst inflation in US history, a recession, higher interest rates, falling stock and housing markets, and lower wages? Your son? Does your son benefit from open doors immigration and rampant crime? I think you need to re-evaluate your political choices.
There is social security for the handicapped. If he keeps working, as you have noted, he will do fine. Most of the mentally handicapped also concurrently qualify for Medicaid additionally. There are TONS of support programs for such individuals.
The people who you need to worry about are those with no impairments, no social safety net, and an economy that is heading for the dumpster and will not allow them to be self sufficient.
I pointed out a long "short list" of all Biden's failures which are negatively impacting the economy (which means you) and society (which also means you). ANYONE who would support a party and an individual idiot which meters out a lower standard of living, less security, and more misery is just asking for it. You have allowed reflex emotions to govern your political views, rather than rationality and critical thinking. Perhaps you should reconsider that when you are bleeding financially, you will never be in a position to help your son.
So in other words..you have no answer as to how conservatives in power would help people like my son. Nor about cutting programs.
Yes, there are tons of programs. For now. If the right have their way, there won't be. Which was my point.
The rest is silliness as it carefully leaves out the fact that we had a pandemic and that economic issues are global and were already a growing problem while a Republican was in office. No real answers. Just a bunch of vague threats plus a couple not very subtle accusations that I'm a terrible parent for not voting for a party that wants to cut programs and leave people like him out in the cold. (Nice try. Boy but you conservatives are cold.)
Social security, if it exists by then, will be paltry due to a permanently low income.
I really was giving you one more opportunity to show what your party *would do* to *protect* such people; you came back with little jabs, and zero "this is what we WOULD DO to protect those who need help" answers.
This is why more than half the nation doesn't trust you, and will not be changing our minds.
So in other words..you have no answer as to how conservatives in power would help people like my son. Nor about cutting programs.
Yes, there are tons of programs. For now. If the right have their way, there won't be. Which was my point.
The rest is silliness as it carefully leaves out the fact that we had a pandemic and that economic issues are global and were already a growing problem while a Republican was in office. No real answers. Just a bunch of vague threats plus a couple not very subtle accusations that I'm a terrible parent for not voting for a party that wants to cut programs and leave people like him out in the cold. (Nice try. Boy but you conservatives are cold.)
Social security, if it exists by then, will be paltry due to a permanently low income.
I really was giving you one more opportunity to show what your party *would do* to *protect* such people; you came back with little jabs, and zero "this is what we WOULD DO" answers.
This is why more than half the nation doesn't trust you, and will not be changing our minds.
I think you have a very skewed view of what conservatives want when it comes to assistance programs.
Just as an anecdote, I know of several people who are fully capable of working but who use flimsy medical claims (usually pain) to pursue government assistance. And they flaunt it when they get it. One woman I know used to complain of pain all the time - so much so that she could not work and tried multiple times to get SSDI. She failed. But, she was always ready to go shopping, go to theme parks. In other words, she was capable of working, just didn't want to.
Most conservatives want a way to stop fraudulent use of social assistance programs. Conservatives realize that there are many who actually NEED the assistance, but it has become so difficult to get BECAUSE of the rampant fraud. The question is how to stop it?
No one wants to leave those who need help without it. We just want those who are fully capable to do their fair share and contribute to society.
So in other words..you have no answer as to how conservatives in power would help people like my son. Nor about cutting programs.
Yes, there are tons of programs. For now. If the right have their way, there won't be. Which was my point.
The rest is silliness as it carefully leaves out the fact that we had a pandemic and that economic issues are global and were already a growing problem while a Republican was in office. No real answers. Just a bunch of vague threats plus a couple not very subtle accusations that I'm a terrible parent for not voting for a party that wants to cut programs and leave people like him out in the cold. (Nice try. Boy but you conservatives are cold.)
Social security, if it exists by then, will be paltry due to a permanently low income.
I really was giving you one more opportunity to show what your party *would do* to *protect* such people; you came back with little jabs, and zero "this is what we WOULD DO to protect those who need help" answers.
This is why more than half the nation doesn't trust you, and will not be changing our minds.
Excellent answer.
The party that continually speaks of cutting social safety programs is not helpful in the long run.
People may never pay off their cars. Leasing is popular now. I saw a headline this week that Ford is not allowing customers to buy back EV's at the end of a lease. Tesla has the same policy. The push for electric cars may also lead to never ending payments for the consumer.
Ford Won't Let You Buy Out Your EV Lease at the End
I think you have a very skewed view of what conservatives want when it comes to assistance programs.
Just as an anecdote, I know of several people who are fully capable of working but who use flimsy medical claims (usually pain) to pursue government assistance. And they flaunt it when they get it. One woman I know used to complain of pain all the time - so much so that she could not work and tried multiple times to get SSDI. She failed. But, she was always ready to go shopping, go to theme parks. In other words, she was capable of working, just didn't want to.
Most conservatives want a way to stop fraudulent use of social assistance programs. Conservatives realize that there are many who actually NEED the assistance, but it has become so difficult to get BECAUSE of the rampant fraud. The question is how to stop it?
No one wants to leave those who need help without it. We just want those who are fully capable to do their fair share and contribute to society.
Do the dems have any solutions to that?
I've heard this song and dance before. The question is still on conservatives. Instead of just cutting programs, what would YOU do to see who gets assistance and who doesn't? Because all I ever hear about is cutting programs. Again...no real answer. Just finger-pointing.
I know a liberal system would go to bat for my son and many many others.
I know conservatives would cut, cut, cut and shrug their residual guilt away with "I'll bet a lot of those people are faking anyway." As you illustrate above.
You claim your party just wants to make sure there isn't advantage-taking, I guess? *But you still don't say how.* So I call B.S. until I'm shown otherwise.
FWIW, I have worked and paid my taxes 35 years, plan on 20 more God willing, and have never been resentful that my money helped others. I have been grateful to be able to work.
I think you have a very skewed view of what conservatives want when it comes to assistance programs.
Just as an anecdote, I know of several people who are fully capable of working but who use flimsy medical claims (usually pain) to pursue government assistance. And they flaunt it when they get it. One woman I know used to complain of pain all the time - so much so that she could not work and tried multiple times to get SSDI. She failed. But, she was always ready to go shopping, go to theme parks. In other words, she was capable of working, just didn't want to.
Most conservatives want a way to stop fraudulent use of social assistance programs. Conservatives realize that there are many who actually NEED the assistance, but it has become so difficult to get BECAUSE of the rampant fraud. The question is how to stop it?
No one wants to leave those who need help without it. We just want those who are fully capable to do their fair share and contribute to society.
Do the dems have any solutions to that?
It the problem is fraud, then the Repubs should be talking about eliminating fraud. Instead we hear tirades about cutting Social service programs and pulling oneself up by their bootstraps and eliminating abortion while at the same time eliminating WIC and other programs for young mothers. There is a major disconnect between what you are saying here and what Repubs are expounding on other threads and in the media.
I think you have a very skewed view of what conservatives want when it comes to assistance programs.
Just as an anecdote, I know of several people who are fully capable of working but who use flimsy medical claims (usually pain) to pursue government assistance. And they flaunt it when they get it. One woman I know used to complain of pain all the time - so much so that she could not work and tried multiple times to get SSDI. She failed. But, she was always ready to go shopping, go to theme parks. In other words, she was capable of working, just didn't want to.
Most conservatives want a way to stop fraudulent use of social assistance programs. Conservatives realize that there are many who actually NEED the assistance, but it has become so difficult to get BECAUSE of the rampant fraud. The question is how to stop it?
No one wants to leave those who need help without it. We just want those who are fully capable to do their fair share and contribute to society.
Do the dems have any solutions to that?
The left looks at all the social programs and does not care about fraud. As long as those who deserve help get it. If half the people on these programs don't deserve to be, they don't care. And some of my more wealthy liberal friends use the excuse that this assistance is such a small amount per month compared to their income that why would anyone want to live like that. They don't believe people would commit fraud in big numbers just to live in poverty. The truth is there are millions just fine living like that and they say whatever they have to say to get that money.
I have run across lots of people who clearly were milking the system or in the process of doing so. And the circle of people around them are just like them. No real job skills and no motivation to acquire them or work at all. If they can get the government to provide enough so they have food and a roof over their head. That is much better than working at a job. The holy grail is a crazy check. And with SSDI if and when you qualify you get a lump sum for all the years you were waiting for that money. That is like winning the lottery to them.
I've heard this song and dance before. The question is still on conservatives. Instead of just cutting programs, what would YOU do to see who gets assistance and who doesn't? Because all In ever hear about is cutting programs. Again...no real answer. Just finger-pointing.
I know a liberal system would go to bat for my son and many many others.
I know conservatives would cut, cut, cut and shrug their residual guilt away with "I'll bet a lot of those people are taking anyway." As you illustrate above.
You claim your party just wants to make sure there isn't advantage-taking, I guess? *But you still don't say how.* So I call B.S. until I'm shown otherwise.
FWIW, I have worked and paid my taxes 35 years, plan on 20 more God willing, and have never been resentful that my money helped others. I have been grateful to be able to work.
Seems you believe the country should go full socialist? That is your solution?
Why don't YOU have any answers on how to stop rampant fraud?
There are checks and balances in the current system to ensure those who need assistance, get it. Enforce the rules and stop the fraud. The programs as they exist would be fine if we can get rid of the fraud. You know it's there you just want to ignore it so you get your piece of the pie.
As is typical with the left, just more rules but no real solutions.
The left looks at all the social programs and does not care about fraud. As long as those who deserve help get it. If half the people on these programs don't deserve to be, they don't care. And some of my more wealthy liberal friends use the excuse that this assistance is such a small amount per month compared to their income that why would anyone want to live like that. They don't believe people would commit fraud in big numbers just to live in poverty.
I have run across lots of people who clearly were milking the system or in the process of doing so. And the circle of people around them are just like them. No real job skills and no motivation to acquire them or work at all. If they can get the government to provide enough so they have food and a roof over their head. That is much better than working at a job. The holy grail is a crazy check.
Says who? Of course potential fraud is an issue.
Again. Rather than just cutting...the right would do what, exactly?
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