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View Poll Results: Why is Disney's Lightyear drastically underperforming estimates at the boxoffice?
It will be on Disney+ soon enough, like other recent Pixar films. 12 10.34%
Gay content. 65 56.03%
Republicans in general are boycotting Disney over culture war issues, and Republicans are half the country. 23 19.83%
Inflation is making families think twice about going to the movies. 16 13.79%
Voters: 116. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 08-17-2022, 07:39 PM
 
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Oh, and the lesbian part was negligible. Not significant to the plot and no more than kids get in school these days.
Just a comment on this part.

Of course, it was not significant to the plot, that is why it was originally removed from the movie. It was only put back in because a small number of people complained and Disney bent to the pressure of the "woke" crowd.

As for it was no more than kids get in school these days. That is a problem in itself. Kids don't need any gender "social" issues entering school, especially at that age. Sex Ed should not be discussing you can be whatever gender you want to be. This is a reason why many parents are taking their kids out of the public school system.
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Old 08-17-2022, 07:47 PM
 
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Just a comment on this part.

Of course, it was not significant to the plot, that is why it was originally removed from the movie. It was only put back in because a small number of people complained and Disney bent to the pressure of the "woke" crowd.

As for it was no more than kids get in school these days. That is a problem in itself. Kids don't need any gender "social" issues entering school, especially at that age. Sex Ed should not be discussing you can be whatever gender you want to be. This is a reason why many parents are taking their kids out of the public school system.
It was not significant enough in the story to be a significant factor in the box office failure of the movie. If the movie had otherwise been a fun and exciting movie, it would still have done well.
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Old 08-17-2022, 07:48 PM
 
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Because it appeared to be regurgitated factory sausage. Anytime Disney throws in a cute kitten or puppy in their films for no apparent reason than to sell stuff folks should void it like the plague. As it looks like they did.
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Old 08-18-2022, 02:26 AM
 
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Finally watched the movie on Disney+.

Took three sittings to get through it. It was not a seat-riveter.

It's not a bad movie, but it's not particularly exciting or fun until the last 30 minutes. I expect most kids were rolling around in their seats.

This is not like, say, Inside Out, where on top of a serious plot there were funny creatures doing wacky things. This was fairly realistic animation of serious people doing serious things with only mild humor.

The basic theme of the movie was the old plot "The Man Who Learned Better." Buzz Lightyear is cocksure, arrogant, and self-important. For the first time, he's faced with failure, and he deals poorly with failure. In his effort to overcome failure, he closes his eyes to everything that is truly important in life, missing out on those important things.

Eventually, however, he "meets" the man he is destined to become if he continues in that way, realizes that that man is his greatest enemy, and finally learns to accept failure for the sake of living life.

It's not a bad story. It's actually a good story. It's just not a particularly exciting story for kids. It's not something kids are going to want to watch over and over...which is what it takes to make a blockbuster movie these days.

Oh, and the lesbian part was negligible. Not significant to the plot and no more than kids get in school these days.
A movie that tried to sit between two stools. A plot that hinges on time dilation, that's a hard sell to kids. A Pixar-style animated movie that's designed to sell toys, hard sell for adults.
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