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Old 06-21-2022, 02:13 PM
 
Location: Western PA
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Except we are talking about facts here. Manafort handed this incredibly confidential data over. Seriously, this is stuff NO ONE else should be seeing. Especially not a foreign country. The reason none of you seem to be able to explain it is because you know the answer.

And no, im not saying Trump here. Lets all be honest. Theres stuff to this Russia thing. Theres NOTHING that ties Trump to it directly, but Manafort? 100% working on behalf of Russia. Seriously. And Trump pardoned him. But a poor choice doesn't mean evil intent you know?

But once you admit Manafort had bad intent here? You cant argue the Russia Russia Russia thing is nonsense. There IS something there. The problem is the left will blow it up into something more, and the right will try and ignore it. That is a mistake. For either side. We need to know specifics on some of this. The problem is both sides try and change it into something more. or something nonexistent.

again, no he did not. The campaign hired a political consultant, once who had worked for various GOP campaigns for years. and came recommended. turns out after the fact this guy was handing it over to russian agents. bummer.


But if this reflects on manafort, then cmon, swallwell belongs in prison because he WAS (is still?) giving info directly to a spy, even after he was told she was a spy.


so no, at no point was manafort even partly 'working for russia', just another horsesh** narrative.
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Old 06-21-2022, 03:02 PM
 
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Just as Jussie Smollet is not going to be trusted on another racial complaint, one would imagine Adam Schiff, the rest of the House Democrats, media allies, etc. have little credibility regarding Trump scandals. Faux and otherwise.

I would expect the true believers (who still swear Trump stole the election from Hillary via Russian collusion) would be baffled by Democratic credibility questions. But for regular folks, credibility concerns are there.
Democrats are destroying themselves with hoaxes, corruption, and failed policies.

No one believes or trusts them anymore. Their only hope for retaining power is election fraud.
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Old 06-21-2022, 03:15 PM
 
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The Jan. 6 Committee disregarding rules and being a kangaroo political Court ruins their credibility.
That they have lied and decieved severely for the past 5 years does not help either though.
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Old 06-21-2022, 03:40 PM
 
Location: Metro Seattle Area - Born and Raised
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I know the right loves to deny this, but none of them ever seem to be able to explain something to me.

Why did Manafort give the internal polling data (which is incredibly private info) to a russian spy?
Probably for the same reason why Hillary lied about and paid for the creation of the Russian hoax, while having her attorney give the FBI there made up lies, knowing it was nothing but lies.

I don’t know how true it is that Manafort knowingly or willingly gave anything to anybody since the Democrats and their allies in the media and big tech have lied about EVERYTHING and even after this was being proven a straight-up lie, they’re still trying to push this BS as if it was true. This is a bigger sin since the purpose is to confuse the “low information” voter, who are too stupid to know that they’re being lied to 24/7 by this witch trail that has ZERO credibility.

Like most of America, I think this political “show trail” is worthless since Nancy Pelosi was never questioned why she and the mayor of DC FAILED to send in the National Guard troops AFTER Trump approved of their deployment. If Pelosi did her job and order in the National Guard, maybe this riot would have never happened, but we will never know the truth since the democrats are protecting Pelosi by not allowing any questions to be asked about her failures leading up to that day.

Yes, January 6 was real, but it was never a threat to the country of democracy…. No more of the threat when Antifa and BLM stormed the Whitehouse grounds in the Fall of 2020 or their attacks on a federal court house for over 100 nights, along with other federal buildings throughout the Summer and into the Fall.
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Old 06-21-2022, 03:52 PM
 
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Probably for the same reason why Hillary lied about and paid for the creation of the Russian hoax, while having her attorney give the FBI there made up lies, knowing it was nothing but lies.

I don’t know how true it is that Manafort knowingly or willingly gave anything to anybody since the Democrats and their allies in the media and big tech have lied about EVERYTHING and even after this was being proven a straight-up lie, they’re still trying to push this BS as if it was true. This is a bigger sin since the purpose is to confuse the “low information” voter, who are too stupid to know that they’re being lied to 24/7 by this witch trail that has ZERO credibility.

Like most of America, I think this political “show trail” is worthless since Nancy Pelosi was never questioned why she and the mayor of DC FAILED to send in the National Guard troops AFTER Trump approved of their deployment. If Pelosi did her job and order in the National Guard, maybe this riot would have never happened, but we will never know the truth since the democrats are protecting Pelosi by not allowing any questions to be asked about her failures leading up to that day.

Yes, January 6 was real, but it was never a threat to the country of democracy…. No more of the threat when Antifa and BLM stormed the Whitehouse grounds in the Fall of 2020 or their attacks on a federal court house for over 100 nights, along with other federal buildings throughout the Summer and into the Fall.
Indeed. Ultimately, it brings us to this point: the Democrats broke plenty of laws and precedence and had their own substantial corruption and collusions, as well as blatantly outright lies and staggering double standards. Which means even if you agree Trump did various wrong things, so did the Democrats.

The double standard and Democratic transgressions are why many people don't trust the Jan 6 hearings or ignore it outright.
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Old 06-21-2022, 03:59 PM
 
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Absolutely. This is fake impeachment #3.
Except this one is chock full of Republican Trump supporters back the claims of the Committee.

Of course you wouldn't know that since most of you are proudly voice your lack of watching the hearings.
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Old 06-21-2022, 04:40 PM
 
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Except this one is chock full of Republican Trump supporters back the claims of the Committee.

Of course you wouldn't know that since most of you are proudly voice your lack of watching the hearings.
Well, normal folks know that only Democrats selected the witnesses (D, R, and I or otherwise), questioned the witnesses, and orchestrated the entire theatrical production.

And the media loves it as much as they loved the collusion hoax.

And Schiff as the leader of the inquiry (again) is just too funny.
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Old 06-21-2022, 07:50 PM
 
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Absolutely. This is fake impeachment #3.

The only difference is that while the first two were actual impeachments, this one is a preemptive impeachment designed to end his 2024 run before it even stars.

So how much credibility do Democrats have? None whatsoever.

Trump did nothing wrong on Jan 6th and there was no insurrection. Period.

Schumer calling for violence against Supreme Court Justices is much more egregious than anything Trump has done.
Nothing wrong huh? More damning slam dunk evidence daily of his crimes of 1.)Obstruction of an official proceeding of congress, 2.)Conspiracy to defraud the United States, 3.)Seditious Conspiracy, and 4.)Wire fraud...

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...Cu9xakX7J9LgSo
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Old 06-21-2022, 08:41 PM
 
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Nothing wrong huh? More damning slam dunk evidence daily of his crimes of 1.)Obstruction of an official proceeding of congress, 2.)Conspiracy to defraud the United States, 3.)Seditious Conspiracy, and 4.)Wire fraud...

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...Cu9xakX7J9LgSo
Sounds like a slam dunk. Of course when the very same folks and the very same media orchestrated the Trump Russia Collusion Hoax more than a few were suckered. Sounded like a slam dunk. LOL
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Old 06-22-2022, 06:43 AM
 
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The Jan. 6 Committee disregarding rules and being a kangaroo political Court ruins their credibility.
That they have lied and decieved severely for the past 5 years does not help either though.


Have you seen any of it?

It is not a trial. It is an hearing to determine if anything was illegal.

All the hard core conservative Republican supporters of POTUS Trump testified yes.

It was especially hard to hear what the Trump sycophants did to them.
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