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Student loans are approved for the individual not the institution how and where they are applied is up to the applicant as is the responsibility of repaying that loan.
Why can't vouchers work the same way? Given to the individual to be used as the individual (and their family) chooses. And federal loans don't always get repaid. Some are in permanent default and others are forgiven via PSLF, etc. So, yes, government funding does go directly to pay tuition at private religious institutions and that has been true for decades.
I don't know. Both are taxpayer dollars supporting religious institutions. That's the crutch of Maine's argument against using taxpayer dollars for religious schools. I wager that the minority in this case (Sotomayor, Breyer, and Kagan) would try to find differences between the two scenarios, they would be intellectually dishonest in my view. In neither case is the government endorsing any religion. They are simply providing taxpayer funds to institutions for the furtherance of education, whether by classroom instruction, research, etc.
From the majority, Maine has an easy way out. Maine does not have to provide any taxpayer funds to private education institutions. But once Maine decides to provide funds to some private institutions, it can't deny funds to others simply on the basis of religion.
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Why can't vouchers work the same way? Given to the individual to be used as the individual (and their family) chooses. And federal loans don't always get repaid. Some are in permanent default and others are forgiven via PSLF, etc. So, yes, government funding does go directly to pay tuition at private religious institutions and that has been true for decades.
Student loans are meant to be paid back and authorized for valid educational institutions, vouchers are not paid back. And too many private/religious schools do not meet education standards in curriculum, facilities, standardized testing and openness to all types regardless.
Watching the national news this evening on NBC one Bangor family is so happy because they want their kids attending the same Christian School they did but why are they celebrating there are multiple public High Schools in Bangor so they won't be eligible for the vouchers.
The state doesn't even require high school graduation. Compulsory attendance is only required until age 17 in Maine. Most haven't graduated high school by then.
The point is that the assumption cannot be made that religious schools indoctrinate. That's a misconception commonly held by those with limited life experience.
I agree.
One of my kids went to Temple Academy at the only jewish place of worship in the small town.
It was run by the deacon at the local Baptist church.
Except that this time the "Segregation Academies" will be promoted by Black "Activists" to give blacks a "Safe Space" where they can get an education. They will get blacks who fall for this and will be lining up in droves begging to be segregated.
We've had 65 years of schools opened up by whites to avoid de-segregation. How many schools were opened by black folks in that time to avoid having to be in classes with white folks?
Student loans are meant to be paid back and authorized for valid educational institutions, vouchers are not paid back. And too many private/religious schools do not meet education standards in curriculum, facilities, standardized testing and openness to all types regardless.
Private post-secondary institutions aren't open to all, either. They pick and choose who they want to admit, yet government funding is used to pay their tuition.
As far as pre-K through 12 goes, I can see restricting government funds for tuition to schools that match or are better than the local public school's academic credentials. Public schools aren't automatically accredited, FYI. There are many that aren't.
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Watching the national news this evening on NBC one Bangor family is so happy because they want their kids attending the same Christian School they did but why are they celebrating there are multiple public High Schools in Bangor so they won't be eligible for the vouchers.
It depends on the district. The Bangor area has several different public school districts. If a district has no public high school and doesn't contract with a neighboring district to serve high school students, the students are eligible for government funding for a private school of the family's choice.
Private post-secondary institutions aren't open to all, either. They pick and choose who they want to admit, yet government funding is used to pay their tuition.
As far as pre-K through 12 goes, I can see restricting government funds for tuition to schools that match or are better than the local public school's academic credentials. Public schools aren't automatically accredited, FYI. There are many that aren't.
It depends on the district. The Bangor area has several different public school districts. If a district has no public high school and doesn't contract with a neighboring district to serve high school students, the students are eligible for government funding for a private school of the family's choice.
IIRC, if the local public school in NYC could not meet the needs of any child, they would pay private school tuition. Took some doing on the part of parents involving lawyers and testing the kid. But it paid off. Private school tuition for 10-12 years is worth the trouble. IDK if they still do it But some private schools opted out due to it being a PITA for them.
Yes they are responsible but like the argument of supporting faith based schools with these dollars it is the far right that consistently complains that they are being exclude. But this gets away from the topic which is that this ruling has opened a Pandora's Box with lawsuits to follow regardless of the intention of how the State of Maine is applying it.
Hopefully that lawsuit will bring us to a better place where parents who opt to send their kids to private schools have the right to use tax dollars to pay for their tuition.
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