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Old 09-26-2022, 07:11 AM
 
Location: OH->FL->NJ
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1) Proportional EV (+2 for winning the state.) Force Dems to run in red states and GOP to run in blue states.
2) I agree on the VP not deciding to verify. The count is the count. period.

 
Old 09-26-2022, 07:30 AM
 
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1) Proportional EV (+2 for winning the state.) Force Dems to run in red states and GOP to run in blue states.
2) I agree on the VP not deciding to verify. The count is the count. period.
Any states that wants to allot their electoral votes proportionally is free to do so. Each state decides their own process/rules for how they handle EC voting.

No federal interference required. Anything the fed does that attempts to standardize all 50 states would be about as gross a violation of the 10th Amendment as can be imagined.

I already posted it once, but will repeat - Maine and Nebraska ALREADY allot a portion of their EC votes based on percentage, not winner-take-all. If those two states are doing it, then clearly fed.gov violating the Constitution is unnecessary.
 
Old 09-26-2022, 10:58 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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how do you feel that Hitlery tried to get the electors to change their votes in 2016

popular vote means nothing
She tried to get electors to change their votes, do you have a link.
 
Old 09-26-2022, 11:04 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Exactly what transpired in 2020.
BS, the Pennsylvania legislature changed the election laws not the governor.
 
Old 09-26-2022, 11:22 AM
 
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how do you feel that Hitlery tried to get the electors to change their votes in 2016

popular vote means nothing
There were some progressive electors that were calling for the 'legal' electors to vote for Clinton...but they most definitely didn't try to illegally insert a bunch of fake electors....cough cough.

And I can't find Clinton's quote calling for the electors to change their votes? But I'm sure you will find one.
 
Old 09-26-2022, 02:00 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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She tried to get electors to change their votes, do you have a link.
https://www.change.org/p/electoral-c...cember-19-2017

https://www.politico.com/story/2016/...s-trump-231731

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...rump/93951818/

https://www.politico.com/story/2016/...clinton-232195

https://www.politico.com/story/2016/...s-trump-231731
 
Old 09-26-2022, 06:27 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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That doesn't indicate Hillary asking electors to change their vote.
 
Old 09-26-2022, 07:13 PM
 
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That doesn't indicate Hillary asking electors to change their vote.
the candidate (and then once elected) for that election is the head of the party at the time.

so if the DNC was looking to change the votes... and Hillary is the so called "head of the party" at the time...then yes she was looking to get the votes changed
 
Old 09-26-2022, 07:20 PM
 
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Well that's an absolute nonsense.

Isn't democracy the will of the majority?

We are not a democracy… we are a Constitutional Republic. As Benjamin Franklin said, “a democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on what’s for supper”
 
Old 09-27-2022, 05:55 AM
 
Location: OH->FL->NJ
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Any states that wants to allot their electoral votes proportionally is free to do so. Each state decides their own process/rules for how they handle EC voting.

No federal interference required. Anything the fed does that attempts to standardize all 50 states would be about as gross a violation of the 10th Amendment as can be imagined.

I already posted it once, but will repeat - Maine and Nebraska ALREADY allot a portion of their EC votes based on percentage, not winner-take-all. If those two states are doing it, then clearly fed.gov violating the Constitution is unnecessary.
I'm fully aware that this cannot be done. The current system is a mess where only a dozen states are in play. Then again so are things like gerrymandering, lack of term limits, the 2 corrupt parties, polarization, lobbying...

The US is not democratic in any meaningful way on issues of the true elite making money. The country is run by billionaires for billionaires. They let us fight over abortion because they do not care. They let people complain because nothing will happen to change the part about the country being run by and for the billionaires.

So we come here to argue. LOL.
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