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Old 06-23-2022, 09:01 AM
 
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Before Biden came the death toll from fentanyl was not the leading cause of death.

During Trump, the drug flow was ebbing and gangs under pressure.

Biden is financing the drug cartels and helping with forced recruitment and drug sales. bide is overtly helping to proliferate drugs and the downstream violence it brings.

Main cause of death from fentanyl and biden goes after cigarettes!!!!!!!! Pushes legalization of pot, most often smoked and impacts judgement. Don't smoke this , smoke that! Don't pump oil here, pump oil there! don't mine for rae eatrh minerals here, mine rare earth minerals there. don't recycle batteries here, recycle batteries there! See the pattern????????

Biden is guilty, in this case, of chemical warfare against the US. Biden is an enemy agent of China and the drug cartels.

Not a peep from the dems. Sacrifice innocent lives to forward a political agenda is what the dems are all about.
What are you talking about? Fentanyl overdose deaths spiked dramatically with Trump.
https://sciencebusiness.technewslit.com/?p=43464

Seriously, click through to the referenced report from the OP and tell me where you get this idea that Trump had the flow ebbing. That's preposterous. It's nearly a straight line up through his term.
https://static1.squarespace.com/stat...ctsheet%5D.pdf

This very article in the OP refers to 2020 stats where the graph shows it became the #1 cause of death between 2019 and 2020. Who was president then again?

When did Biden become pro pot legalization?
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Old 06-23-2022, 09:44 AM
 
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No thanks to the biden administration for rolling out the red carpet across the southern border. Blood on this administrations hands continues to rise.

https://www-cbsnews-com.cdn.ampproje...inistration%2F

Being a stooge of china doesnt help
You're not going to stop fentanyl that way, you're conflating 2 completely separate issues.

Fentanyl is so potent that 1KG can kill 500,000 people.

It's not like trying to smuggle a semi full of pot into the country.

Just so easy to move 10KG of fentanyl driven right across a border checkpoint or flown across by drone or a host of other ways.

Stopping the flood of illegals is another topic, you're not going to stop fentanyl.
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Old 06-23-2022, 09:55 AM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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I know a DEA agent- this is their priority now. The ignore pot unless it is in massive quantities and have shifted from abused prescription drugs to fentanyl and meth.
Yep too much time and money spent on pot. But - ask your friend how many times the budget was reduced the last 15 yrs. I am retired DHS and they also work drug cases. Budget drops every year. A lot of people refuse to accept that hedge funds run this market. So until the denial is overcome regarding the consumer and the funding - this is not going away.
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Old 06-23-2022, 09:58 AM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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1 - Fentanyal does come across the southern border as well as though the west coast and Canada.

2 - The primary source is China
3 - There is no "red carpet" at the border.
4 - Texas tried to implement new border inspections where 20,000 trucks per day cross the border with goods at just one point.

5 - Traffic backed up with wait times lasting days and perishable products going to waste. The new inspections did not last long.



This traffic load has been "normal" at the border for years/decades. Is it a problem. No doubt. In an international economy the flow of goods across borders is essential. Illegal drugs are bound to be part of that flow. It has been since pot became popular in the 60s.



Non of this is new and laying the blame of a half century old "drug war' issue on Biden is pure political rhetoric. Find a solution instead of someone to blame.
You are correct. China produces.

https://www.dea.gov/sites/default/fi...20States_0.pdf
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Old 06-23-2022, 08:24 PM
 
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We will never stop drugs from entering our country no matter what we try to do.
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Old 06-24-2022, 08:02 AM
 
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Leading cause of death-poor decisions by the junkies and those seeking a chemical high.

That being said they say addict should not be enabled. Which means don't accommodate their habit ie make it easy for them.

The tons of these chemicals making it across the border is enabling.

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Old 06-24-2022, 09:07 AM
 
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Lol you think it’s Biden when in actuality both your Dems and Republicans don’t want to fix it because all of the social problems from this line their pockets.

Everything is money in this country. Think of how many business alone make money from fentanyl deaths:

- Funeral homes
- Big pharma
- Doctors
- Prison owners

I can go on. These types of problems are not Democrat or Republican. It’s only a problem until it affects the wealthy class.
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Old 06-24-2022, 09:09 AM
 
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Drug cartels are encouraging groups of migrants to go across the border while they bring their drugs through while border agents are busy with migrants. The drug cartels own the border.

DEA has been actively recruiting agents...but no one wants to work, especially at the border.

Son's friend is actively seeking to get another job away from the border. Says it is pure garbage.
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Old 06-24-2022, 09:11 AM
 
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Scary thing and i hope this is not off-topic. I was reading my surgical details the other day. The anesthesiologist gave me Fentanyl. When i saw that it freaked me out. I woke up somewhat during this procedure and i felt first hand what that felt like. they say its 100 times more powerful than morphine. I beleive it. Now i know why people buy that stuff like opiods because of the high they get off it. Yikes. scary that i was given fentynyl in the hospital.!!! but as you can see it was not fatal. thank goodness.
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Old 06-24-2022, 03:45 PM
 
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FYI, this was happening under Trump as well....
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