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Old 06-30-2022, 09:25 PM
 
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I am still waiting for a good explanation of how it is anyone's business but the woman and her doctor as to what medical care they think is appropriate for her situation.

Keep in mind that a woman you do not know and have never met having a abortion has zero negative impact on you.
You've been answered, even in the thread you quote. The fact that you disagree with the answer doesn't mean one wasn't given . The people act , via the state , to protect life that the people collectively view as weak and defenseless. You cant abuse puppies, you cant mistreat the elderly , you cant beat your kid senseless, you cant sexual abuse women employees, and so on. Abortion is considered abuse by many. Your disagreement with that doesn't matter, anymore than that of the man beating his kid as discipline thinks it isn't the business of his next door neighbor what he does to his own kid.

 
Old 06-30-2022, 09:29 PM
 
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The reason for a woman having an abortion is none of your business. Period.
If this were so,every state in the union would allow unlimited abortion at any stage prior to exiting the birth canal. This obviously isn't the case, even in blue states.

So why do you keep repeating nonsense?
 
Old 06-30-2022, 09:31 PM
 
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Abortion is taking responsibility.
This is like saying shooting your unwanted dog is taking responsibility for getting a dog you couldn't take care of .


Fail.


Running to an abortion clinic because you failed at preventing a pregnancy and don't want to deal with the result is the antithesis of taking responsibility.
 
Old 06-30-2022, 09:36 PM
 
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Yes that crazy activist court in1973 that had 5 justices appointed by republican presidents.

But according to Thomas and Alito their decision that lasted 50 years and was reaffirmed is egregious, never saw such anger in a ruling threatening what they were going after next. Thomas was right in his statement that he was going to make life miserable for like liberals after the way he was treated, problem is he made life more miserable for poor women.

Thomas finally got the right judges to overturn Roe, the right wing finally had their dream come true.
I have been considering how ironic it is that the first guy subjected to the Democratic "seek and destroy " method of annihilating nominees of opposing ideology is now the most powerful justice on the SC.

Karma.

It is a *****.
 
Old 06-30-2022, 09:42 PM
 
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This is like saying shooting your unwanted dog is taking responsibility for getting a dog you couldn't take care of .


Fail.


Running to an abortion clinic because you failed at preventing a pregnancy and don't want to deal with the result is the antithesis of taking responsibility.
If you don’t want to remain pregnant or parent, abortion is taking responsibility for your pregnancy.

A 15 year old can’t adopt a baby because she’s 15. Why would you want a pregnant 15 yr old without parental or financial support, or that doesn’t want to be a teen parent become one. That’s punishment. abortion is taking responsibility.

Birth control isn’t 100 percent. Accidents happen. Saying yes to sex, especially if you’re on bc isn’t saying yes to pregnancy, labor and delivery, let alone parenthood for 18 years or giving a child up to adoption. Abortion is taking responsibility.
 
Old 06-30-2022, 09:47 PM
 
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Yes that crazy activist court in1973 that had 5 justices appointed by republican presidents.

But according to Thomas and Alito their decision that lasted 50 years and was reaffirmed is egregious, never saw such anger in a ruling threatening what they were going after next. Thomas was right in his statement that he was going to make life miserable for like liberals after the way he was treated, problem is he made life more miserable for poor women.

Thomas finally got the right judges to overturn Roe, the right wing finally had their dream come true.
So what if they were five justices nominated by a Republican president. One of the dissenters was nominated by a Democrat.

In the 50’s and 60’s when these justices were confirmed on the bench the social and cultural differences between both parties was minimal. It was policies on governing the country that differed.

A “Conservative” back then would be moderate in today’s political climate.

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Old 06-30-2022, 09:53 PM
 
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If you don’t want to remain pregnant or parent, abortion is taking responsibility for your pregnancy.

A 15 year old can’t adopt a baby because she’s 15. Why would you want a pregnant 15 yr old without parental or financial support, or that doesn’t want to be a teen parent become one. That’s punishment. abortion is taking responsibility.

Birth control isn’t 100 percent. Accidents happen. Saying yes to sex, especially if you’re on bc isn’t saying yes to pregnancy, labor and delivery, let alone parenthood for 18 years or giving a child up to adoption. Abortion is taking responsibility.
LOL. Your definition of responsibility has no connection with reality . it is like Trump claiming to be the fittest POTUS in history when someone made a comment about his weight. Just flinging out stupidity to conflate things.


There are two choices when finding out you are pregnant against your wishes. One, deliver the baby and make a decision then thats best for the baby, whether adoption or raising it yourself. Two, run to an abortion clinic and get rid of it. Choosing to remove the inconvenient thing from your life so you don't have to deal with any consequences from your actions in creating the inconvenient thing is by definition the antithesis of "taking responsibility for your actions".


" I don't want to have to deal with all of this, so get rid of it"

Yeah, responsible. My azz.
 
Old 06-30-2022, 09:58 PM
 
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LOL. Your definition of responsibility has no connection with reality . it is like Trump claiming to be the fittest POTUS in history when someone made a comment about his weight. Just flinging out stupidity to conflate things.


There are two choices when finding out you are pregnant against your wishes. One, deliver the baby and make a decision then thats best for the baby, whether adoption or raising it yourself. Two, run to an abortion clinic and get rid of it. Choosing to remove the inconvenient thing from your life so you don't have to deal with any consequences from your actions in creating the inconvenient thing is by definition the antithesis of "taking responsibility for your actions".


" I don't want to have to deal with all of this, so get rid of it"

Yeah, responsible. My azz.
Again bc fails. It’s called pro choice she has three options. She doesn’t care or need your subjective approval of her choice.

A fetus doesn’t trump the will of a full grown woman. It’s her responsibility to do as she sees fit.
 
Old 06-30-2022, 10:01 PM
 
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Again bc fails. It’s called pro choice she has three options. She doesn’t care or need your subjective approval of her choice.

A fetus doesn’t trump the will of a full grown woman. It’s her responsibility to do as she sees fit.
Actually it isn't . And getting less so .Most every state in the US limits her choices to different extents. Many now will limit them even more.
 
Old 06-30-2022, 10:06 PM
 
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Actually it isn't . And getting less so .Most every state in the US limits her choices to different extents. Many now will limit them even more.
Yes many states are banning our access to abortion. All the restrictions will do nothing but deny service to the poor. Like pre roe women will die again from illegal and self induced abortions.
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