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Old 07-08-2022, 01:15 PM
 
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How is Plessy relevant?
Like Dobbs, the Brown decision reversed Plessy, essentially saying the prior court's ruling had no Constitutional basis.

 
Old 07-08-2022, 02:04 PM
 
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That's what this ruling is.

Women have no constitutional right to make their own medical decisions. It's up to the state they live in what "rights" women have.
 
Old 07-08-2022, 02:19 PM
 
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That's what this ruling is.

Women have no constitutional right to make their own medical decisions. It's up to the state they live in what "rights" women have.

There was never a federal constitutional right for abortions just like not having a constitutional right for food. It doesn't exist and it was a made up law. All the ruling is it take a mistake and fixed it by throwing it to the states like it should have been done in the beginning.
 
Old 07-08-2022, 02:22 PM
 
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There was never a federal constitutional right for abortions just like not having a constitutional right for food. It doesn't exist and it was a made up law. All the ruling is it take a mistake and fixed it by throwing it to the states like it should have been done in the beginning.
I have the feeling that if states started outlawing Viagra, because after all, a minority of people in some states might believe that if God wanted men to be able to have sex, they'd have natural erections, there'd be a different opinion on this.
 
Old 07-08-2022, 02:26 PM
 
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Like Dobbs, the Brown decision reversed Plessy, essentially saying the prior court's ruling had no Constitutional basis.
Plessy had nothing to do with abortion. It's not relevant.

Brown did not explicitly reverse Plessy.
 
Old 07-08-2022, 02:30 PM
 
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I have the feeling that if states started outlawing Viagra, because after all, a minority of people in some states might believe that if God wanted men to be able to have sex, they'd have natural erections, there'd be a different opinion on this.

The court ruling had nothing to do with God just like the Judges that made up law in 1973 used Persian and other civilizations history on abortions. Nothing to do with that either.



It's call federalism and the 10th amendment. I never saw the courts shove Viagra on all 50 states and take out the power of the people to legislate in their state. If you want a federal right on Viagra then make it happen by votes don't make up laws in the courts.
 
Old 07-08-2022, 02:52 PM
 
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There was never a federal constitutional right for abortions just like not having a constitutional right for food. It doesn't exist and it was a made up law. All the ruling is it take a mistake and fixed it by throwing it to the states like it should have been done in the beginning.
You got it, finally.

SCOTUS decision was that women had no constitutional right to make their own medical decisions.

Each state can decide what women are allowed and not allowed to do.
 
Old 07-08-2022, 03:16 PM
 
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I have the feeling that if states started outlawing Viagra, because after all, a minority of people in some states might believe that if God wanted men to be able to have sex, they'd have natural erections, there'd be a different opinion on this.

Kinda ironic that a bunch of old men who can't even get it up anymore would be leading the decision on women's reproductive rights and agency of their own bodies.
 
Old 07-08-2022, 03:59 PM
 
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No such thing as settled law anymore. Courts can reverse 50 year precedents, Presidents can reverse Exec Orders of the previous guy, and Congress will soon be un-doing longstanding laws. So much for being a nation that abides by the rule of law. All the laws are in flux at all times now.
Roe was a bad decision from the start. The issue has been set right and the states will now be responsible for how the issue is handled. That is what the Supremes decided. They can do that.
 
Old 07-08-2022, 04:11 PM
 
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No such thing as settled law anymore. Courts can reverse 50 year precedents, Presidents can reverse Exec Orders of the previous guy, and Congress will soon be un-doing longstanding laws. So much for being a nation that abides by the rule of law. All the laws are in flux at all times now.

You mean like slavery and segregation? Maybe now the courts can respect the 10th amendment and not make up law. I assume you took American Civics in how to pass an amendment in the constitution. Do it or stop crying about it. Roe was whacked.
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