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Just for giggles, lets say they are 4 major parties. And all 4 parties received around the same amount of votes. They were all split. The winner would only have won by a little over 25% of the vote. That is how Hitler was elected in a multiparty system in Germany pre WW2. However I believe Germany had around 16 parties at the time.
Germany and most of Europe still have 4-5+ political parties, your spill about electing Hitler doesn't negate the fact that millions of people need a political party that represents their interests, and that means more than two parties.
Trump, who had no political or military experience, will be the closest thing we ever see to a 3rd party candidate winning the WH.
Americans are far too stubborn to elect outsiders or 3rd party candidates.
Not stubborn....INSANE! They keep electing failed Ivy League Lawyers from wealthy families to run the country, & those losers have us $30.5T in debt. Voters do it over and over and over again, and expect different results...duh!
Not stubborn....INSANE! They keep electing failed Ivy League Lawyers from wealthy families to run the country, & those losers have us $30.5T in debt. Voters do it over and over and over again, and expect different results...duh!
Democrats and Republicans both run up the national debt as elected presidents. Clinton left us with a budget surplus at the end of the 1990's which was the last economic boom decade with far more uniform prosperity. We now have 10 year cycles of inflated bubbles and collapses that generally hit the bottom half of the population harder.
A couple years ago while reflecting on where this country went wrong in electing leaders after Reagan, I was perplexed why I personally wasn't more interested in voting for Perot in '92. At the time I was 27, only out of the military for 2 years having served overseas for a few years, so wasn't up on national politics like I would have been if I had been in the U.S. during the last half of the '80s. So I decided to do some research on Perot and the positions he took on issues to see if there had been something I missed or that I disagreed with.
After purchasing his book United We Stand: How we can take back our country, eventually I got to the issues that made me not vote for him. 1) He was pro-abortion, which surprised me since he had a boy scout image; and 2) He wanted to raise gas taxes so high that Americans would be forced to drive less, all in an effort to fight global warming. After reading the book I had a clear recollection of those two stances on issues being the reasons I decided not to vote for him.
I believe many of us would like to see a new sane party take hold to fight the insanity we see our politicians perpetrating on the nation, but if it's going to happen it'll be a very tough fight. Like here in Ohio, S.B. 193 from several years ago, nicknamed the Re-elect John Kasich Act (he was the Governor at the time and running for re-election), makes it very hard for third parties to get on the ballot. The Green Party, The Libertarian, and the Constitution Party usually can't get on the ballot. Imagine a new party trying to get on it.
After the 2024 election I'll never vote for Republicans again, and swore off the Democrat party a long time ago after seeing what they've done to the country. And only way I vote for Republicans in '24 is if Trump runs. He was the best president in my lifetime and I was born in '65. People can say what they want, but at least he did what he promised to do when running for office. Unlike many politicians who admit later they just say what they have to to get elected.
Although NAFTA was actually signed into law by President Clinton on December 8, 1993.
Yes Clinton had the formal role of signing but it was Bush and both parties that negotiated every detail in NAFTA.
Clinton agree with what was there and signed it.
Trump did too -- for allt he talk of the new NAFTA -- the new NAFTA wasn't a big change to what was already in place.
No matter how folks want to spin it -- politicians like NAFTA and will stick with it.
I think Bush defeating McCain in the 2000 GOP primary was a big mistake in hindsight. I think McCain wouldn't have made same mistakes in Iraq. The left in the USA was dead after 9/11 and it mostly revived died to the Iraq War lies. If you dislike Obama and today's Wokeism you should recognize that is where it began. Hillary voting for the war is the main reason she wasn't the overwhelming primary winner in 2008 with Obama instead being VP.
I feel that Clinton did a good job and governed from the center, don't see how Perot could've left the USA in any better shape by 2001.
I agree. “Woke” culture definitely slowly and gradually got its start under Obama. He laid the seed, and it took off from there. Far right Trump culture, obviously started under Trump. Now everything is a mess…
Trump, who had no political or military experience, will be the closest thing we ever see to a 3rd party candidate winning the WH.
Americans are far too stubborn to elect outsiders or 3rd party candidates.
Trump was far from a 3rd party candidate, he aligned himself with the GOP establishment from day 1. He passed the establishment tax law, nominated the establishment judges, he continued the establishments war in Afghanistan. He was a puppet for the GOP establishment, not even close to 3rd party.
We would have not even remotely faced the current barely functioning government, and the rise of the far right and far left. Those candidates try and get votes for being elected president on every wedge issue under the sun.
Conclusion, the US is a failure for not having a strong viable third party.
I voted for Perot. I'm not sure how effective he would have been, since he'd have both parties gunning for him on day 1.
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