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View Poll Results: Do women need to take more responsiblity for their sexual health?
Yes 192 75.29%
No 59 23.14%
Not Sure 4 1.57%
Voters: 255. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 06-30-2022, 05:22 PM
Status: "I don't understand. But I don't care, so it works out." (set 2 days ago)
 
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Originally Posted by InformedConsent View Post
WHY would any woman VOLUNTARILY submit herself to an unwanted pregnancy? That's just stupid. Sorry to be so blunt about it.
It seems that there are some people who truly don't understand "why" a woman and a man would take that chance. Why, when her period is usually regular, she would allow her husband/boyfriend to have unprotected sex at a time when she should not be ovulating.

I understand it. I can't imagine, if we were using condoms as birth control, I'd make the man I loved use a condom EVERY time we had sex. That's a diminished life, literally. And it sucks to be on the pill. And spermicide burns.

I don't understand people, who don't understand that.

 
Old 06-30-2022, 05:48 PM
 
Location: Downtown Cranberry Twp.
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It seems that there are some people who truly don't understand "why" a woman and a man would take that chance. Why, when her period is usually regular, she would allow her husband/boyfriend to have unprotected sex at a time when she should not be ovulating.

I understand it. I can't imagine, if we were using condoms as birth control, I'd make the man I loved use a condom EVERY time we had sex. That's a diminished life, literally. And it sucks to be on the pill. And spermicide burns.

I don't understand people, who don't understand that.
There’s other options for women than the pill and spermicide.
 
Old 06-30-2022, 06:15 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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It seems that there are some people who truly don't understand "why" a woman and a man would take that chance. Why, when her period is usually regular, she would allow her husband/boyfriend to have unprotected sex at a time when she should not be ovulating.

I understand it. I can't imagine, if we were using condoms as birth control, I'd make the man I loved use a condom EVERY time we had sex. That's a diminished life, literally. And it sucks to be on the pill. And spermicide burns.

I don't understand people, who don't understand that.
Her choice to make, but that's knowingly accepting a 24% pregnancy risk. Think about it... The rhythm method is only 76% effective at preventing pregnancy. "When she should not be ovulating" is the tipoff. Timing that correctly is FAR from precise.
 
Old 06-30-2022, 06:48 PM
 
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It seems that there are some people who truly don't understand "why" a woman and a man would take that chance. Why, when her period is usually regular, she would allow her husband/boyfriend to have unprotected sex at a time when she should not be ovulating.

I understand it. I can't imagine, if we were using condoms as birth control, I'd make the man I loved use a condom EVERY time we had sex. That's a diminished life, literally. And it sucks to be on the pill. And spermicide burns.

I don't understand people, who don't understand that.
Understand what?.....that all of that is worse than an unwanted pregnancy? Weak argument.
 
Old 06-30-2022, 06:52 PM
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There’s other options for women than the pill and spermicide.
Ya mean "ol pokey", the IUD? No thank you. Somewhere just shy of 1/5 of them poke through the cervical opening with a sharp tip . . . and you can imagine why that would be unwanted. By either partner.
 
Old 06-30-2022, 06:55 PM
 
Location: interior Alaska
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If parties consented to sex on the agreement that the man wears a condom, or that the woman is on the pill, why is lying about wearing a condom and lying about being on the pill different?
Condoms are used even when there is not a risk of pregnancy, as STD protection. Lying about condom use endangers other person's health and wellbeing, possibly even their lives.
 
Old 06-30-2022, 06:56 PM
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Understand what?.....that all of that is worse than an unwanted pregnancy? Weak argument.
I'm not arguing, I'm informing.

And we're not all created just alike. I do understand that people with low libido would have little trouble resisting sexual urges, especially where a risk of unwanted pregnancy exists. Meanwhile, there are people in third world countries who are so compelled by their desire for the other person they are willing to risk death, literally, to be with them.

We're all approximations on the mean. Some people can't understand what would compel a couple to want to have sex with nothing between them, and those people might rather watch a movie than have sex of any kind so they don't understand this overwhelming passion that can lead to foolish choices.
 
Old 06-30-2022, 07:19 PM
 
Location: Elsewhere
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Understand what?.....that all of that is worse than an unwanted pregnancy? Weak argument.
It's not supposed to be an argument. It is reality, human behavior, and it is an example of how unwanted pregnancy occurs.

What I don't understand is how many of you think that by repeating and repeating and repeating that people "SHOULD" be more careful, something will change.

Say something new. People are not being careless just to annoy YOU, and they won't respond to your admonitions.

Make an effort to objectively learn the reasons unwanted pregnancy happens. Hint: They can't be distilled into a word or sentence. Come up with ideas that don't involve you wagging your forefinger.

Yes, women need to be responsible for their sexual health. Some need to be educated, kindly, as to what responsibility entails.
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Old 06-30-2022, 07:28 PM
 
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As a man, I really do not understand why or how women are still "accidentally" getting pregnant in the 21st century. It makes zero sense.

-You have condoms.
-You have a variety of contraception and birth control options.
-You have the pull-out method.
-You have oral and manual stimulation options.
-A woman can track her menstrual cycle and avoid vaginal intercourse on the days she is fertile.

None of this is rocket science.

So why are women still "accidentally" getting pregnant?
Are they idiots? Irresponsible?
Did their birth control some how fail?

What's going on?

"In a study of sexual trends in the United States, researchers at the University of Utah found that promiscuity is rising for women and declining for men. The number of women who've had sex with more than 15 partners has increased over the past few decades, from 3 percent to 7 percent.
The opposite is true of men, who are having sex with fewer partners than they did in previous years, the researchers said."
https://medicalxpress.com/news/2018-...-sexually.html

Oh, yeah, the pull-out method. Can't possibly get pregnant that way. Yeah, condoms, that's 100%.

Tell me, do you often rush to blame women rather than men? Do you blame them for earning less, for instance? Is it their own fault, maybe because they're dumb and lazy, that earn $.83 for every $1.00 a man earns?

That's a really biased, no-win poll.
 
Old 06-30-2022, 07:31 PM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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Some people can't understand what would compel a couple to want to have sex with nothing between them, and those people might rather watch a movie than have sex of any kind so they don't understand this overwhelming passion that can lead to foolish choices.
There is a reason why lust has been called one of the seven deadly sins.

We come into the world and make choices, which often determine our fate and the trajectory of our lives in a multitude of ways.
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