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View Poll Results: should we abolish the meritocracy ?
Yes, for genetic reasons 2 8.70%
Yes, for other reasons 1 4.35%
We must preserve the meritocracy 16 69.57%
other 4 17.39%
Voters: 23. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 06-29-2022, 02:41 PM
 
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"The Great Class Swap also has parallels to Bell Curve Leftism, Andrew Sullivan’s description of the outlook of Marxist author, Freddie DeBoer, and his book “The Cult of Smart,” which makes a moral case for the less intelligent. The book is very critical of the modern liberal concept of meritocracy, which places moral value upon people based upon their success in life, under a framework of genetic blank slatism. DeBoer make the case for wealth redistribution on the grounds that a large segment of the population simply lack the inborn capabilities to achieve economic success. DeBoer is one of the few leftists brave enough to acknowledge the very taboo validity that inequality is a product of genetics, besides just a lack of opportunities and oppressive, hierarchical social systems. DeBoer advocates for radically restructuring society to take into account innate inborn inequalities, with solutions such as looser standards for education and not rewarding people financially just for their intelligence. DeBoer’s shortfall is that since he is still a leftist, he has an unrealistic obsession with absolute equality of outcome and neglects the importance of incentive structures in how much he wants to penalize the intelligent."



https://robertstark.substack.com/p/r...onal-solutions
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Old 06-29-2022, 02:52 PM
 
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The stupid and the lazy deserve to be poor and have less than the hard working and successful.

An advancing civilization must allow the inferior members to struggle and die off.

When you go against that, everything goes to hell. As currently being seen in our dying country.
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Old 06-29-2022, 03:02 PM
 
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Nature needs meritocracy. I don’t know why but that’s the way it is. If an attempt to remove it is made, it fights to reestablish itself. This can be found in every part of nature.
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Old 06-29-2022, 03:04 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Ron Swaonson's 'Pyramid of Greatness'
Capitalism: God’s way of determining who is smart and who is poor.
No more needs said.
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Old 06-29-2022, 03:11 PM
 
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Many broke geniuses.
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Old 06-29-2022, 03:13 PM
 
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Many broke geniuses.
Nope. A high IQ doesn't make you smart.

Your choices and actions are part of your intelligence resume, not just how well you can read, retain and learn.

Ron Swanson is king, he knows all.
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Old 06-29-2022, 03:15 PM
 
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What should we use to replace meritocracy? Mediocracy? Idiocracy? It seems like we're already heading that way expeditiously.
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Old 06-29-2022, 03:16 PM
 
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Nope. A high IQ doesn't make you smart.

Your choices and actions are part of your intelligence resume, not just how well you can read, retain and learn.

Ron Swanson is king, he knows all.

Getting your life advice from TV characters? What did Peter Griffin have to say today?
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Old 06-29-2022, 03:18 PM
 
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What should we use to replace meritocracy? Mediocracy? Idiocracy? It seems like we're already heading that way expeditiously.


Marxist Freddie DeBoer's Bell Curve Leftism (https://andrewsullivan.substack.com/...-curve-leftism)





Or anti-liberal socialist Robert Stark's Great Class Swap ( https://robertstark.substack.com/p/the-great-class-swap )
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Old 06-29-2022, 03:20 PM
 
Location: A Nation Possessed
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Sorry, wokes, but that is the way it has been since the beginning of humankind--at least until recently. It's only lately that we have tried to short-circuit that mechanism and look what we have not: the defective constantly caterwauling and crying about inequality, even though they are indeed already being sustained by others. At one time, they would have been on the short end of the natural selection process. There was a time that unless you were smart enough to "hunter/gatherer" your own foodstuff or could perform a task valued by others enough to barter, you starved to death.
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