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Why would you think I don't know what I'm talking about?
I know several young men some with kids (divorced) and some not who had no problem getting a V. OTOH I know a few young women with no kids who were denied a Tubal. That seems to be most people's experience. Of course I realize rules and laws differ by state as well its basically up to individual doctors which also differ within and among states.
Great thinking. Hopefully women are as responsible. So easy to have less unwanted pregnancies.
HA!
Women’s eggs are only fertile about 2 days each month. And that’s for a limited number of years.
That makes 24 days a year a women’s egg might get fertilized.
But men can cause pregnancy 365 days a year. In fact, if you’re a man who ejaculates multiple times a day, you could cause multiple pregnancies daily. In theory a man could cause 1000+ unwanted pregnancies in just one year.
And though their sperm gets crappier as they age, men can cause unwanted pregnancies from puberty till death. So just starting with basic biology + the calendar, it’s easy to see men are the issue here.
I know several young men some with kids (divorced) and some not who had no problem getting a V. OTOH I know a few young women with no kids who were denied a Tubal. That seems to be most people's experience. Of course I realize rules and laws differ by state as well its basically up to individual doctors which also differ within and among states.
The difference here is more likely due to the risks with each rather than other factors. A vasectomy is generally considered a minor procedure that is often performed in the doctor's office. A Tubal Ligation is surgery and is considered to be a higher risk because of possible complications.
I could see it much more likely for a doctor to deny a woman from getting a tubal ligation just because she doesn't want kids, than a guy being denied a vasectomy for the same reason.
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The difference here is more likely due to the risks with each rather than other factors. A vasectomy is generally considered a minor procedure that is often performed in the doctor's office. A Tubal Ligation is surgery and is considered to be a higher risk because of possible complications.
I could see it much more likely for a doctor to deny a woman from getting a tubal ligation just because she doesn't want kids, than a guy being denied a vasectomy for the same reason.
I would say they're likely treated the exact same way, because they're the same thing.
A likely irreversible surgical method of birth control, on someone who will likely want it reversed in the future.
I would imagine that medical practices that will deny one gender sterilization, will deny the other gender the procedure in the same circumstances.
You're comparing two different things, it looks like.
Stats on "unintended pregnancies" and stats on women seeking abortions.[
They're not always the same population.
Lots of women who have "unintended pregnancies", go on to happily carry the baby.
Do the math.
3.4 million unintended pregnancies per year.
5% of women with unintended pregnancies were consistently using birth control.
5% of 3.4 million is 170,000.
There are 960,000 abortions per year.
Even if every one of the 5% who were using bc consistently got an abortion (unlikely as at most, only 28% of unintended pregnancies are aborted) that would be only 17.7% of the abortions performed per year, NOT 51% as Gutmacher's selectively manipulated data reporting tries to imply.
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Nope. It was your post. You assumed the response to the Dobbs decision was that women will get illegal abortions performed by unlicensed practitioners:
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What will now happen, is women will submit themselves to unlicensed practitioners, and men will be even more likely to kill their pregnant partners than they were before.
This isn't a guess. We know this.
You're still letting men control you. Think outside the abortion box and start thinking inside the pregnancy prevention box.
3.4 million unintended pregnancies per year. 5% of women with unintended pregnancies were consistently using birth control.
5% of 3.4 million is 170,000.
There are 960,000 abortions per year.
Even if every one of the 5% who were using bc consistently got an abortion (unlikely as at most, only 28% of unintended pregnancies are aborted) that would be only 17.7% of the abortions performed per year, NOT 51% as Gutmacher's selectively manipulated data reporting tries to imply.
And what percentage of that 5% was lying about it?
And what percentage of that 5% was lying about it?
Valid point.
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