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Old 07-02-2022, 08:16 AM
 
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I have said this before, but in my observation, it comes down to "urban vs. rural".

I would rather there be some kind of city states in which any metro area of more than 2.5 million people could make their own rules outside the laws of the state which contains the city-state. I mean, compare the population of major metro areas https://www.statista.com/statistics/...%20top%20three. to the population of some states https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._by_population ! For example, there are 25 states with less population than the Phoenix-Mesa-Chandler area to give just one example.

Of course, the above is very simplistic and would require a reworking of the Constitution, but I honestly don't know why that would be any worse than the situation we have now in which it SEEMS that one-half of the U.S. absolutely hates the other half. (I know that is not actually true, but I do think it is to the point that the 20% of those on the far left truly do hate the 20% of those on the far right, and vice versa.)

And it would be a heck of a lot simpler and usually less expensive for people to move within a state than to move to a completely different one!
I don't know how it works, I just want it done one way or the other. Just work up a plan and sign me up. The sooner we get started, the sooner it can become reality. We need to stop talking and start doing this.

Can you imagine what this country will look like in another 2 and a half years of this? We're on the Titantic right now and that is not an exaggeration. They have absolutely no plans to fix a thing. All they are interested in is pronouns and letting criminals loose and allowing illegals to come in and take over. They want you poor and want you destitute so you come to the government for rescue. It sickens me that their plan is working.

High crimes
High fentenyl dealths
High number of illegals pouring in along with terrorists
High number of Children in schools being brainwashed to hate the country
High % of the History being erased.
High inflation
High price of gas
High % of your stocks going down the drain
High % of your wallet/pocket book having less money to spend on higher prices.

They are winning with their agenda. This is all what they want. I see either civil war or let's just divide.

 
Old 07-02-2022, 08:19 AM
 
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I sure don't want my state to become like California or NY via laws imposed on us.

I do not want to be dragged into socialism.
Socialism can't survive without capitalism, they will never split with us, we're feeding them money.
 
Old 07-02-2022, 08:21 AM
 
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“Why don’t we split the country into 2 nations?”

… because we’re not whiny children who take our ball and go home when we dont get our way.
I guess you oppose divorce then when two people become incompatible in a marriage? They should stay together and be unhappy?
 
Old 07-02-2022, 08:21 AM
 
Location: Knoxville, TN
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Didn't we try this once?
 
Old 07-02-2022, 08:24 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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We already are split in two: big cities on one side and small towns and rural areas on the other.
83 % of the population live in urban areas.
 
Old 07-02-2022, 08:26 AM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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Didn't we try this once?
That was a practice run

Maybe this time we'll get it right.
 
Old 07-02-2022, 08:26 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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We could have an area for the left and one for the right leaning.

This way each nation could live how they want and be happy. I just don't want to live under dems in power any longer. It is downright miserable and hard to accept how they are destroying our country on purpose.

Let them have their own part where they can have all the illegals that they want, they can have no law and order and they can let a dictator dictate to them how they live. Do away with all prisons and let no one be arrested. They can all live off the government and take their handouts and have their free speech taken away. They can have all the abortions that they want. There can be abortion clinics on each corner like there are CVS drug stores.

They can cancel people/things and have all the new pronouns they want. They can have a person of color trans dictator and no white person has any power. They are mere lowlifes. They can have their own WOKE speech and go to town on all things WOKE. Let them enjoy their doom and gloom that they bring and want.

They can do away with all American flags. They can take away religion and any Patriotic song such as Star Spangled banner.

Then can all go buy electric cars with money the government supplies to them and pay high prices at the grocery store.

They can take away all guns so no one can protect themselves with their high crimes. Homeless people can take over the streets.

Why is this not possible right now? How do we get this started? I'm so ready.

Let's face it, we will never come together for the sake of the country. We have 2 different ideas of how this country should be. Dems want to destroy and Republican want to build it up into something great.

I'm not interested in living in the world of Biden, i.e. his cronies. I hate it. I would love to have the country split in two and lets have a sane person in power and we could have such a good place to live again.
 
Old 07-02-2022, 08:28 AM
 
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We would need a wall bigger than the one Trump tried to build separating the two halves.
 
Old 07-02-2022, 08:29 AM
 
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“Why don’t we split the country into 2 nations?”

… because we’re not whiny children who take our ball and go home when we dont get our way.
Liberals are whiny children who protest and destroy when THEY don't get their way.
 
Old 07-02-2022, 08:30 AM
 
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Go further. Split up by the states and become more like the EU with all states participating.
It would definitely curtail the creeping power and $$$ greed sought by the Federal Government.
It would still allow everyone to be an American and travel to whatever state they wanted.
The eu is based on country not state. And all countries do not participate or have joined the eu of course.
Territories or states within counties are not relevant.
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