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Old 07-02-2022, 09:13 AM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
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“Why don’t we split the country into 2 nations?”

… because we’re not whiny children who take our ball and go home when we dont get our way.
Clearly you skipped American history class when the Democrats did just that before the Civil War.

If it wasn’t for Republicans, this nation would’ve been divided up a long time ago. The Democrat part would be Afghanistan due the endless violence, and the Republican part would be Denmark.

 
Old 07-02-2022, 09:13 AM
 
Location: Free State of Florida
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Originally Posted by wp169 View Post
Socialism can't survive without capitalism, they will never split with us, we're feeding them money.
Parasite and host, but the host is in denial that the parasite exists.

I dont know if I'm more at the Libs (parasites), or the Republicans (host) who can't see the parasite.
 
Old 07-02-2022, 09:18 AM
 
Location: Free State of Florida
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And where would the people in the middle live who don’t identify as either right or left?
We get Southwest Florida I won't even have to move.
 
Old 07-02-2022, 09:29 AM
 
Location: Free State of Florida
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Sounds good to me also. Let's do it! Ok, what do we do first?
1) elect Rand Paul President, & Thomas Massie VP...they'll start shrinking the federal gov't, & reverse this trend:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Govern...ending_GDP.png

2) elect enough Pubs to Statehouses to hold a Convention of States (we'll be very close by Nov 8th)

3) Pass an amendment to limit federal gov't spending to 10% of GDP, which is enough for national defense, but nothing else.

This is doable, legal, and peaceful.
 
Old 07-02-2022, 09:31 AM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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We could have an area for the left and one for the right leaning.

This way each nation could live how they want and be happy. I just don't want to live under dems in power any longer. It is downright miserable and hard to accept how they are destroying our country on purpose.

Let them have their own part where they can have all the illegals that they want, they can have no law and order and they can let a dictator dictate to them how they live. Do away with all prisons and let no one be arrested. They can all live off the government and take their handouts and have their free speech taken away. They can have all the abortions that they want. There can be abortion clinics on each corner like there are CVS drug stores.

They can cancel people/things and have all the new pronouns they want. They can have a person of color trans dictator and no white person has any power. They are mere lowlifes. They can have their own WOKE speech and go to town on all things WOKE. Let them enjoy their doom and gloom that they bring and want.

They can do away with all American flags. They can take away religion and any Patriotic song such as Star Spangled banner.

Then can all go buy electric cars with money the government supplies to them and pay high prices at the grocery store.

They can take away all guns so no one can protect themselves with their high crimes. Homeless people can take over the streets.

Why is this not possible right now? How do we get this started? I'm so ready.

Let's face it, we will never come together for the sake of the country. We have 2 different ideas of how this country should be. Dems want to destroy and Republican want to build it up into something great.

I'm not interested in living in the world of Biden, i.e. his cronies. I hate it. I would love to have the country split in two and lets have a sane person in power and we could have such a good place to live again.
On board. But that would require the democrats compromising, which given their track record for the past 50 years, won't happen. It's always their way or the highway.
 
Old 07-02-2022, 09:31 AM
 
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Sounds good to me also. Let's do it! Ok, what do we do first?
Decide who is going where. Then figure out where the money goes. Does each person's FICA and SS follow them or is it divided up by amount contributed per state? Then who gets what.

If there is no nation, who gets the property owned by the USA? It cannot go to the state where it is located because all the USA taxpayers paid for it and the upkeep.

What about the military, property and benefits owed? My state promised a college education to veterans and their kids. What if there is no national military. Does that promise hold for Texas citizens in the military stationed somewhere else?

Just think about the property settlement nightmare. It's a stupid suggestion.

But come on down to Texas. You will love it. and there will be no liberal in charge for the next 100 years. I'll make you a great deal on a 5/3.5 updated 3400 foot house close to 290@1960 in Houston.
 
Old 07-02-2022, 09:34 AM
 
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Originally Posted by diddlydudette View Post
We could have an area for the left and one for the right leaning.

This way each nation could live how they want and be happy. I just don't want to live under dems in power any longer. It is downright miserable and hard to accept how they are destroying our country on purpose.

Let them have their own part where they can have all the illegals that they want, they can have no law and order and they can let a dictator dictate to them how they live. Do away with all prisons and let no one be arrested. They can all live off the government and take their handouts and have their free speech taken away. They can have all the abortions that they want. There can be abortion clinics on each corner like there are CVS drug stores.

They can cancel people/things and have all the new pronouns they want. They can have a person of color trans dictator and no white person has any power. They are mere lowlifes. They can have their own WOKE speech and go to town on all things WOKE. Let them enjoy their doom and gloom that they bring and want.

They can do away with all American flags. They can take away religion and any Patriotic song such as Star Spangled banner.

Then can all go buy electric cars with money the government supplies to them and pay high prices at the grocery store.

They can take away all guns so no one can protect themselves with their high crimes. Homeless people can take over the streets.

Why is this not possible right now? How do we get this started? I'm so ready.

Let's face it, we will never come together for the sake of the country. We have 2 different ideas of how this country should be. Dems want to destroy and Republican want to build it up into something great.

I'm not interested in living in the world of Biden, i.e. his cronies. I hate it. I would love to have the country split in two and lets have a sane person in power and we could have such a good place to live again.
But you'd still want the red states to get financial assistance from the federal government, right? You're not talking about complete autonomy?
 
Old 07-02-2022, 09:34 AM
 
Location: Rochester, WA
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It amuses me that people believe that their side/party/team, without any opposing view competing for their vote, will continue doing exactly what they want them to do.

I don't want to live under any government without an opposing point of view.


It isn't agreement that keeps us balanced and in check, and keeps us improving our arguments and our policy... it's disagreement.
 
Old 07-02-2022, 09:35 AM
 
Location: Lost in Montana *recalculating*...
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I sure don't want my state to become like California or NY via laws imposed on us.

I do not want to be dragged into socialism.
I agree!!! Let’s start with the granddaddy of all socialist programs- the massive bailouts paid to farmers and ranchers!! It’s an obscene program!

https://www.ers.usda.gov/amber-waves...tance-in-2020/

https://www.npr.org/2020/12/30/94932...-didnt-need-it

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Congress approved about $35 billion in emergency aid to farmers, which came on top of roughly $10 billion in traditional farm subsidies that were already in place. In addition, farmers were able to tap billions of dollars in funding from the Paycheck Protection Program.

The aid, delivered in two separate packages over the course of the year, went to a wide variety of people in agriculture, including corn and soybean farmers, cattle ranchers, and fruit and vegetable producers. The $46 billion in direct government payments to farmers in 2020 broke the previous annual record by about $10 billion, even after accounting for inflation.
 
Old 07-02-2022, 09:39 AM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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Originally Posted by Threerun View Post
I agree!!! Let’s start with the granddaddy of all socialist programs- the massive bailouts paid to farmers and ranchers!! It’s an obscene program!

https://www.ers.usda.gov/amber-waves...tance-in-2020/

https://www.npr.org/2020/12/30/94932...-didnt-need-it
Yeah, you're right. We should have sent this money over to Ukraine instead.
No farmers = no food.
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