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Old 05-31-2008, 10:07 AM
 
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-------"one needs to define what they consider poor mpg"--

for many folks the answer is--------"anything less than I'm getting"
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Old 05-31-2008, 10:08 AM
 
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You are placing everyone in your financial situation, we are not. I can afford to drivemy Jeep and fill it up, thats why I drive it. If the time comes when gas is $10 a gallon or beyond my ability to fill it up then I will get something else. Just because you think it is alot doesnt mean we cant afford it. Would I like gas prices to drop yea, I'd love to payless but hit doesnt not mean I cant pay them .
Hmmm.
I guess something is really being lost here. My point is that I, personally, can afford to pay $5/gallon, no problem. But I choose to save money by driving a car that gets better mileage than an SUV. I choose to save money and spend it on other stuff (that Whole Foods addiction for one....) or invest it. Just because I CAN doesn't mean I SHOULD or WANT to. That's all. Everyone is welcome to spend their $$ on an SUV, a mini Cooper, a bike, whatever. How many more times can I say that spending more money than necessary to drive doesn't make sense TO ME?
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Old 05-31-2008, 10:16 AM
 
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-------"one needs to define what they consider poor mpg"--

for many folks the answer is--------"anything less than I'm getting"
Ha ha, true....
Personally, to me, I wouldn't drive anything that doesn't get at least an average of 25 mpg.
I know that to some that's way too little, and to others, that's way too much. It works for me.
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Old 05-31-2008, 11:08 AM
 
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I am thinking of buy a new vehicle. Guess what Ford is oofing 8100 mcaqsh back on a new f-150 plus your best deal. $8100 dolars will buy gas for that truck for a long time especailly since I have a camry for everyday driving when it will haul waht i want it to.Same thng happened in the 70's peole sold thir SUVs at a lost 'payed a premium for a compact because dealer won't move and in the end it really cost them. Especailly if they traded i and the SUV had not been payed for yet.
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Old 05-31-2008, 11:14 AM
 
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I think the main problem with SUVs is not that they bring up the price of gas which some were arguing but the pollution they cause which is one of the many why they have enforced the gas guzzler tax in london and they are trying to do it in other places.
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Old 05-31-2008, 11:33 AM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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I think the main problem with SUVs is not that they bring up the price of gas which some were arguing but the pollution they cause which is one of the many why they have enforced the gas guzzler tax in london and they are trying to do it in other places.
SUV's don't raise pollution
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Old 05-31-2008, 12:34 PM
 
Location: Lexington
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SUVs dont raise prices, if that were the case why didnt gas prices shoot up in the late 90's when SUV buying took off. If you read the paper you will see prices are going up because of wall street, not joe blow and his SUV.

Another question, why dont they stop making as much of the higher octanes and put that towards 87 the most common one people use?
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Old 05-31-2008, 12:47 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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Another question, why dont they stop making as much of the higher octanes and put that towards 87 the most common one people use?
Some auto manufactuers require 91 octane - Smart Car is one of them
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Old 05-31-2008, 12:53 PM
 
Location: America
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I have read several posts whingeing about high gas prices. it's big oils fault for profiteering! it's the governements fault for overtaxing! it's the feds fault for devaluing the dollar! it's opecs fault for being greedy! it's environmentalists fault for protesting against wildlife preserve exploration! it's speculators fault for creating false demand! the Chinese and Indians are to blame for giving up their bicycles to buy cars! it's george bush's fault! blah blah blah yadda yadda yadda

whenever i'm in the states i seem to come across a large number of grossly oversized vehicles. a large number of these have US flags brandished across them in some shape or form. a large percentage of their owners sport flags outside their homes. to me this is all a big con. those people aren't patriots, they're traitors!

Guilty of bankrupting the US and financing Al Qaeda, they should be flying saudi flags instead!
Only thing they are guilty of is buying into marketing campaigns. So if you want to lay blame lay it on the companies making the vehicles along with their efficient marketing campaigns.
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Old 05-31-2008, 12:57 PM
 
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Another question, why dont they stop making as much of the higher octanes and put that towards 87 the most common one people use?
Many of the European Cars with good gas mileage require high octane to get the best mileage...

Octane in Europe is higher than the US and European Cars are already detuned slightly to run on 91 available here.

BMW published a report that hp and mileage of US market vehicles is slightly less than the EU market vehicles solely due to our lower octane fuel...
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