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Old 07-04-2022, 07:01 AM
 
Location: Retired in VT; previously MD & NJ
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Scientists all over the world disagree with you.

Life begins at conception (fertilization of the egg).

Really...acorns and trees ????
Really? You don't understand that life begins in the same way, whether plant or animal?

 
Old 07-04-2022, 07:06 AM
 
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A fertilized human ovum, not implanted in the uterine wall is not a pregnancy.
I have seen some on this forum argue that a fertilized human ovum, not implanted in the uterine wall IS a baby. That is why they argue that an IUD for example, which prevents it from implanting in the uterine wall is considered an abortion.
 
Old 07-04-2022, 07:11 AM
 
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I disagree with that, unless age restricted. I agree under 13 may not know, but teens would know pregnancy is a risk and the weeks allowed should be the same as the general local state law.
You can't assume at what age a young preteen or teen learns the "facts of life."

Any minor should have the option to abort because a minor cannot give consent for sex... it would be considered rape.
 
Old 07-04-2022, 07:50 AM
 
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Any minor should have the option to abort because a minor cannot give consent for sex... it would be considered rape.
And they can't argue this one away without looking like heartless monsters. Sex by an adult with a minor is legally rape. Now they have to explain how victims of incest and/or rape don't get an exemption because...

And I guarantee none of those lawmakers would ever insist, let alone force, their own child or grandchild to carry a pregnancy if that minor was impregnated. No matter what they claim to their rightwingnut voters.
 
Old 07-04-2022, 08:06 AM
 
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If this story of a 10 year old pregnant girl is even true. I would take it with a GOS
 
Old 07-04-2022, 08:10 AM
 
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If this story of a 10 year old pregnant girl is even true. I would take it with a GOS
You are being naive to think this kind of thing doesn't happen. Be prepared for many more horrible stories like this between now and the November election.
 
Old 07-04-2022, 08:12 AM
 
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If this story of a 10 year old pregnant girl is even true. I would take it with a GOS

Of course. Deny, blame someone else (often the victim gets blamed), obfuscate, claim it's all #fakenews or #hoax, or doubtful.

Rightwing 101 maneuvers, utterly transparent. The Indiana doctor came forward and went on record.

And here we have the truth - rightwingers do not care about children, they only care about forcing a birth.
 
Old 07-04-2022, 08:19 AM
 
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George Carlin had it right all along (from his 1996 special):

LINK
 
Old 07-04-2022, 08:29 AM
 
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Originally Posted by lottamoxie View Post
For every 10 fertilized eggs, between 4 and 6 never make it to implantation.

That's mother nature.
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Vitzthum VJ. Evolution and endocrinology: The regulation of pregnancy outcomes. In: Elton S, O'Higgins P, editors. Medicine and evolution: current applications, future prospects. 2008 Jun 2. Chapter 6.

Boklage CE. Survival probability of human conceptions from fertilization to term. Int J Fertil. 1990 Mar 1;35(2):75.
Yep, but that doesn’t change the scientific consensus that life begins at conception, aka fertilization.
 
Old 07-04-2022, 08:48 AM
 
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You are being naive to think this kind of thing doesn't happen. Be prepared for many more horrible stories like this between now and the November election.
Where did that poster say that "this kind of thing doesn't happen"? Perhaps you should reread his comment, he was talking about a specific story that had not been verified.
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