OpEd: CA has Two Choices in These Dark Times, Lead or Secede (abortions, states)

[RMESMH]

Originally Posted by RowingFiend

It's not the folks in Hayden Lake that are "nasty." It's the elitist left wing snobs, but I doubt you've ever paused to consider that. Introspection isn't the strong suit of the far left.

I don't think I've encountered any elitist left wingers, snobs or otherwise, in the Panhandle

[RMESMH]

Originally Posted by RowingFiend

Since it's so rich, why is it such a dump? I mean, Oakland is pretty much the Newark of the West Coast.

It sounds like you've never been to Oakland.

[RMESMH]

Originally Posted by RowingFiend

When I lived in California, I lived in Monterey. Far better than anything associated with San Francisco, including it's red-headed stepchild Oakland.

Pfffft .

Thanks for letting me know that you've never been to West Palm Beach. Please keep it that way, thanks.

Nah.

He's right.

You'd live in Palm Beach in a second if you could afford it.

Odds are that it gets on your last nerve that your mayor is a Democrat.

[RMESMH]

Originally Posted by danielj72

Yes that is the story we hear from the left all the time. How we fund our government and what we choose to fund will no longer be the business of the blue states if we split up. Imagine a world where we can all stop arguing about all of this and live the way we want to live....on both sides. That is the reason dividing the country is looking better and better all the time. We are so far apart and so divided that each side sees the other with nothing but contempt. That cannot lead anywhere good. A peaceful division of the nation allows us to have a national divorce and go our separate ways on friendly terms. Each side can then do as they please without interference from the other side. An end to all this strife and bickering, preventing a potential civil war.....all are good things.

Except there are plenty of Rs in California, and plenty of Ds in Texas.......etc.

[RMESMH]

Originally Posted by danielj72

No our enemies are China, Russia, N Korea or Iran. While I don’t think a socialist California would align with crazies like Iran or N. Korea they very well may align with socialist China. I wasn’t calling Californians enemies but it is very clear to me that they hold some very far left philosophies that are more in line with those of China than they do with the traditional capitalism of America. We can afford to have China camped out in San Francisco or Portland. Sorry but that is unacceptable

If the Republicans win the House in November, the next Speaker of the House might be a Republican from.....wait for it......wait for it.....California.

[RMESMH]

Originally Posted by JerZ

Heck no. We're not taking Ventnor in exchange for Park Place and Broadway. We'll just finally open up those desalination plants.

[allenk893]

Originally Posted by RMESMH

Oakland wasn't 'making a statement'.


He was answering a specific question from another poster.


I knew what Oakland meant with the 'not welcome' comment (because I know that he is gay and in a SSM), but it's more than likely that the poster asking Oakland the question didn't know what he meant, otherwise he/she wouldn't have asked Oakland that question.

As if there aren't any same sex couples in red states. Nobody cares unless you're constantly announcing your business in the streets.

[Mathguy]

Originally Posted by 18Montclair

I always find it so amusing how often we are told that California would be unable to thrive as an independent nation, as if a bunch of MOOCHER red states has any business telling us how we actually need them to succeed, when we would be better off we were to secede.

First off, you sound like the right wingers.

Second, the whole red\blue moocher state thing is bad science.

It's pretty much skewed by "public goods" like reservations, interstate highways, misallocation of farm subsidies and other federal facilities like nuclear missile silos, bombing ranges, nuclear waste depositories etc. etc. etc.

Since you either have not taken or do not recall economics 101, I'd google "public goods".

[DabOnEm]

Originally Posted by 18Montclair

What I find most interesting is the very people who hate our state and want us to fail, are the same ones that would do everything they can to keep us from leaving.


Agreed. We don't need the thread to get diluted by people who have zero personal stake in California and are only going to grandstand about libt@rd this and cesspool that--that's pointless and boring at this point.

So instead you wanted your California echo chamber so no one can really challenge your viees. Typical.

Originally Posted by remco67

you were promoting your beliefs which you know are controversial in the area you are going, so whose fault is it? Where you physically assaulted or your vehicle damaged? I wonder if a Big full size truck drove thru San Francisco and other far left areas of CA with a Trump Bumper sticker and MAGA plates what type of reception would they get?

Thank you. Many Californians dont understand this and are giant hypocrites. It has trupy amazed me since I moved here almost a decade ago. Thought it was open and live let live, but real quick it showed me it is not as open as portrayed, and since the pandy it has been "live like me or else".

[tickyul]

California, some of the most majestic, magnificent, interesting desirable land in the nation..............in-spite of who is running it.

You can seen that many things the Dems do fail to work out well, that much is obvious to sane people.

Just how long will CA remain a lure to people for what it has left????