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Old 07-06-2022, 04:51 PM
 
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You still don't get it because you like to stick your head in the sand. We are the leading group ARRESTED in terms of crime. Guess what, we are also the leading group Exonerated. Could there be a connection? Umm!! I've known cops to plant evidence during a traffic stop. Luckly, because of cameras everywhere now, some of these $%&%$@@ have been getting caught.
I have been threatened with planting a dime bag on me before. I was told that I should be grateful for my freedom because they can plant a dime bag on me and lock me up anytime they want. So far I have been harassed with warrantless searches at my old apartment and over eleven years of harassment through traffic stops. No one has ever tried to help me.
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Old 07-06-2022, 05:19 PM
 
Location: Lahaina, Hi.
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Stop and frisk? Maybe people don't want to get felt up by a stranger with a gun.
And the tradeoff is an increased risk of being killed by a different "stranger with a gun".
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Old 07-06-2022, 05:22 PM
 
Location: Lahaina, Hi.
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Just out of curiosity, do you think it’s ok to stop and frisk solo, young (18-22 years old) White males near schools or large social events?
I'm okay with being stopped and frisked myself, if I am in a high crime area.
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Old 07-06-2022, 05:39 PM
 
Location: SoCal/PHX/HHI
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I'm okay with being stopped and frisked myself, if I am in a high crime area.
Wow, you just give up your 4th Amendment rights just like that? Holy cow, no.
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Old 07-06-2022, 05:48 PM
 
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I don't have any kids. No wife either. There are times I wonder if I would be cut out for raising children. It is hard raising kids. It's especially hard raising a Black kids knowing all that a Black kid will eventually have to grapple with. Try getting that kid to be a good influence on other kids. Not everyone will listen. Pop culture holds too much power.

The average middle class Black person has little in common with a ghetto, underclass thug culture-immersed Black person other than skin color. I mentioned being a childless bachelor in the last paragraph. It is indeed hard enough taking care of myself. How would anyone expect me to babysit hood rats who won't listen anyway? Last I checked, those would be the persons deriding middle class Blacks as "acting White".

I challenge those persons who think people should get our misfit "brothers" under control to answer this: How do you expect people like me to do that when it's proven they won't listen to anyone, not even fellow Blacks?
ITs tough.... as a White Male, i have friends whom i can't control either. They'll end in jail, in the hospital, or both or DEAD~

I can't stop them...and can't worry about it anymore (time is short).

My Advice to any Black Male pursuing happiness in the USA, is to 'Adapt the Western Culture 100%.' Don't have anything to do with groups that resemble or hint at being Communist (you'll eventually get used as a Patsy and Lord only knows, how far you will fall).

Forgo all nonsensical Civil Rights, Black Power, Minority Power Movements; they are Toxic to the core and there's always a power struggle within those back-stabbing Virtue signally groups. Forgo Liberal Ideals of corrupt Politicians; time and time again, they're always selling a Con-Game. Adapt Conservative Family Values... Conservative Reserve Politics.

Most importantly, loose your loser friends. Stay away from Toxic Trouble makers. Get involved in Positive activities; Martial Arts, Exercise, Sports, Hobbies.

If you live in a Democrat City, get the hell out. Run, to a Republican City and State. If you're Black and Conservative, you're GOLD! (YOUR like a Jew-for-Jesus, in a Charismatic Church; Top Shelf).

If you follow the above, you still might experience discrimination, prejudice, hate, etc. But the majority of ppl will accept you and even Welcome you as a Conservative...

Not so with the Left... they'll be looking to back-stab you and throw you under the bus~

Hope you are listening for your sake... Most Ppl can't leave their environment, and end up being subject to it.
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Old 07-06-2022, 05:57 PM
 
Location: Lahaina, Hi.
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Wow, you just give up your 4th Amendment rights just like that? Holy cow, no.
I already do it every time I go through TSA screening at an airport. What's a few more times matter? It is annoying but not demeaning.
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Old 07-06-2022, 06:01 PM
 
Location: Chicago Area
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Was there a case where a black person didn’t actively resist the arrest and still got shot?

I said “actively” to allow minor scuffles with the arresting officers. “Minor” means cursing, push, and shove. It does not mean bashing the officer’s head against the car door or attempting to grab the officer’s gun.
It's impossible to have zero cases of police shooting unarmed people. Accidents happen. Sometimes it's dark and a cellphone looks a lot like a gun. Sometimes a rookie cop panics and does something stupid. Example: Philando Castile.

But ultimately, the numbers are insanely small, while the perceptions that Americans have are massively overinflated.

https://www.skeptic.com/research-cen...-CUPES-007.pdf

The above study found that in 2019:
  • Somewhere between 13-27 unarmed black men were killed by police in 2019.
  • 24.9% of people killed by police in 2019 were Black.
  • Among those surveyed describing themselves as "Very Liberal" 84% of respondents believe that the number unarmed black men are shot by police every year was over 100 -- all of whom have a significantly overinflated belief.
  • As a subset to that number, there are 54% of the very liberal respondents that believe that it's at or more than 1000 unarmed black men shot by police every year.
  • And as a subset of that, 22% of Very Liberal respondents actually believe that 10,000 or more unarmed black men are shot and killed by police every year.
  • The breakdown doesn't change all that much for Liberal, Conservative and Very Conservative. The huge majority of Americans think that the problem is way way way bigger than what actually happens in reality.
  • More than twice as many unarmed white men are shot and killed by police every single year, but I'm betting that nobody on this forum can name even one from 2022.
It's not that it's okay for unarmed black men to get shot and killed by police. The trouble is that almost everyone believes it's happening way way way more often than it actually happens.
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Old 07-06-2022, 06:28 PM
 
Location: Austin
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I think that is BS that That statement should be relegated to a certain side, i.e. conservative.

To me, that is common sense. Universal. No color, creed, or economic status needed as a qualifier.

It just IS.

But even mentioning something like that gets you kicked out of the conversation by some.
It's not a statement of should, it's a statement of is. Liberals believe that govt is the solution to all problems. Tell them that an issue is beyond govt and needs to be fixed at the family level and prepare for an explosion of accusations.
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Old 07-06-2022, 07:35 PM
 
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It's impossible to have zero cases of police shooting unarmed people. Accidents happen. Sometimes it's dark and a cellphone looks a lot like a gun. Sometimes a rookie cop panics and does something stupid. Example: Philando Castile.

But ultimately, the numbers are insanely small, while the perceptions that Americans have are massively overinflated.

https://www.skeptic.com/research-cen...-CUPES-007.pdf

The above study found that in 2019:
  • Somewhere between 13-27 unarmed black men were killed by police in 2019.
  • 24.9% of people killed by police in 2019 were Black.
  • Among those surveyed describing themselves as "Very Liberal" 84% of respondents believe that the number unarmed black men are shot by police every year was over 100 -- all of whom have a significantly overinflated belief.
  • As a subset to that number, there are 54% of the very liberal respondents that believe that it's at or more than 1000 unarmed black men shot by police every year.
  • And as a subset of that, 22% of Very Liberal respondents actually believe that 10,000 or more unarmed black men are shot and killed by police every year.
  • The breakdown doesn't change all that much for Liberal, Conservative and Very Conservative. The huge majority of Americans think that the problem is way way way bigger than what actually happens in reality.
  • More than twice as many unarmed white men are shot and killed by police every single year, but I'm betting that nobody on this forum can name even one from 2022.
It's not that it's okay for unarmed black men to get shot and killed by police. The trouble is that almost everyone believes it's happening way way way more often than it actually happens.
When it happens it remains in the news. That makes it seem like it happens more because people hear about it constantly.
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Old 07-06-2022, 09:16 PM
 
Location: SoCal/PHX/HHI
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I already do it every time I go through TSA screening at an airport. What's a few more times matter? It is annoying but not demeaning.
Come on now, going through TSA is a “little bit different” than being stopped on the street and searched while going about your own business. Surely you see the difference here?

Let me put it to you like this, you walk to the store for bread, milk, whatever, minding your own business, committing no crimes, your completely OK with getting stopped and searched? Really?
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