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I never quite grasped how their PM is selected, from what I understand the party that has the most seats in Parliament selects one of their member to be PM they're not elected by the people. Am I correct in this logic?
That is the key difference between their parliamentary system of representative democracy and our presidential system of representative democracy. A prime minister is an elected member of parliament chosen by parliament for leadership. A president is a directly elected leader of an independent executive branch.
Chris Pincher was accused of sexual assault against other men.
Boris claimed he didn't know about these allegations whilst Foreign Secretary, and later as PM made Pincher a Chief Whip, which is someone that looks after MP's welfare and makes sure they toe the party line.
However more recent sexual assault allegations came out about Chris Pincher, and it turned out Johnson knew about the previous allegations and had quipped at the time 'Pincher by name, Pincher by nature'.
It was this lie that has bought down Boris Johnson, as he had already survived Partygate.
In terms of parties the Labour leader Keir Starmer and Deputy Leader Angela Rayner may also soon have to resign in relation to 'Beergate', and it seems Durham Constabulary have an alleged witness who is prepared to testify in Court.
So there could well be leadership battles in both main political parties.
The Bottom Line in all of that is Boris Johnson LIED one too many times.
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At least Borris has the mental capacity to step down. Wish biden did.
He was forced out by his own Party because he was dragging dow the Party with him.
The “dragging down the Party with him” certainly sounds familiar. TeamBiden’s Party is too cowardly to act.
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That is the key difference between their parliamentary system of representative democracy and our presidential system of representative democracy. A prime minister is an elected member of parliament chosen by parliament for leadership. A president is a directly elected leader of an independent executive branch.
Two very different systems of democracy.
Thanks, that's what I thought but the online descriptions aren't so clear...
I hope Keir Starmer doesn't have to leave but it's not looking good. He sounds like a good man to me but all the pent up anger and resentment from covid need to be thrown back at someone and he wasn't exactly an angel so he gets to be a target. With Boris it seemed to be more than just cheating during lockdowns. From over here he seemed to be a bumbling, vague on policy clown-slob PM. And he was smart but he never learned.
The UK's Trump is going away. Good riddance. The world is changing for the better.
I will have to defend Boris Johnson against this allegation. Only online left-wingers think Johnson is another version of Trump and making this claim only demonstrates ignorance and partisan bias.
That aside, Boris is the architect of his own misfortunes. The British electorate does not allow their prime ministers the kinds of privilege that is now typical in the United States (such as California's Newsome introducing one law for California citizens while flagrantly disobeying it himself, and ditto for AOC). The British already have a privileged head of state in the figure of the monarchy. Prime Ministers are held to much greater accountability.
Boris never recovered from the revelation of the lockdown parties. One can be perhaps sympathetic of these private gatherings among the PM's staff with the argument they were working intensely around the clock during the critical phases of the pandemic and the sheer level of stress they must have experienced was something most of us didn't. A bit of stress release is always good.
However, and this is a big however, these parties occurred at the same time the British public were effectively locked up at home. People had dying family members in hospitals they could not see for the last time because of the lockdowns. People didn't see their parents or grandparents for months - due to the law.
Boris lied about the parties. And then was found to have misled Parliament and the parliamentary investigators about the parties, and it became clear he sent out other people to lie on his behalf while promising them it was the truth. And this happened again with other minor scandals. And again!
Each incident on its own would not have brought him down. But collectively it was too much. Both the Tory base and elected MPs had lost faith in him, along with the country as a whole. He no longer had a mandate in spirit. There was no longer confidence in him for he had betrayed the trust once placed in him.
That is the key difference between their parliamentary system of representative democracy and our presidential system of representative democracy. A prime minister is an elected member of parliament chosen by parliament for leadership. A president is a directly elected leader of an independent executive branch.
Two very different systems of democracy.
The final candidates are presented to the Party membership who will decide which of them will become leader of the Party. You don’t have to be a member of parliament to vote, just be a registered member of the Party.
The BBC reported that Boris "went down in disgrace just like his friend Donald Trump."
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