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View Poll Results: I support the right to choose
Only for abortion 4 4.40%
Only for vaccines 10 10.99%
For both vaccines and abortion 15 16.48%
For all things, including drugs and prostitution. 62 68.13%
Voters: 91. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 07-08-2022, 09:44 AM
 
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Do what you want with your body but don't kill an innocent baby.
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Old 07-08-2022, 09:48 AM
 
Location: SW Virginia
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Unborn babies have a right to autonomy too. Maybe they don't want to be killed in the womb.
Well stated.
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Old 07-08-2022, 09:53 AM
 
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Government needs to stay out of our lives. Period.
Everything should be based upon the constitution, and then a vote by the people.
I’m sick of this middle of the night law passing crap with little or no input from the people.
We should be running the country, NOT politicians.
It really (long line of expletives) to no end the way that the government has molested the constitution and the will of the people and turned this country into a for profit means for these scumbags. Yeah we might need 1776 V:2
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Old 07-08-2022, 10:04 AM
 
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Does your bodily autonomy have any direct effect on me? Are you creating a vector for virus distribution by not getting vaccinated. Are you having kids that you can't support that I will have to pay for? Are you turning yourself into a fried brain drug seeking zombie will with victimize whoever you have to in order to get your next fix?

You can't ignore the interconnectedness.
Your vaccine is supposed to protect you, no real need to force it upon those who don’t want it just to protect you in case your vaccine does not work.

I hate being around drug seeking zombies and support having them punished by the law when they are caught committing crimes that impact others in order to support their drug addiction. Their drug addiction itself however, is their problem.
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Old 07-08-2022, 10:08 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Your vaccine is supposed to protect you, no real need to force it upon those who don’t want it just to protect you in case your vaccine does not work.

I hate being around drug seeking zombies and support having them punished by the law when they are caught committing crimes that impact others in order to support their drug addiction. Their drug addiction itself however, is their problem.

Unfortunately it would not let me rep you again but
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Old 07-08-2022, 10:27 AM
 
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It goes beyond that. Mass vaccination is supposed to create herd immunity, so the virus is squeezed out of the entire population. This is an explicit goal of vaccination.

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Your vaccine is supposed to protect you, no real need to force it upon those who don’t want it just to protect you in case your vaccine does not work.

I hate being around drug seeking zombies and support having them punished by the law when they are caught committing crimes that impact others in order to support their drug addiction. Their drug addiction itself however, is their problem.
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Old 07-08-2022, 10:39 AM
 
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It goes beyond that. Mass vaccination is supposed to create herd immunity, so the virus is squeezed out of the entire population. This is an explicit goal of vaccination.
What if the vaccine in question is non sterilizing and cannot possibly create herd immunity?

Does the right to potentially not be exposed to specific viruses trump the right of a human being to decline an injection of a pharmaceutical product?
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Old 07-08-2022, 10:49 AM
 
Location: My house
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for all things including physician assisted suicide. bodily rights for fetuses should take effect when the baby would be viable outside the womb. most reasonable people agree with this.
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Old 07-08-2022, 10:58 AM
 
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The most fundamental of all natural rights which we all possess as a condition of our very existence is self-ownership, from which stems every other natural right.

You own you. You can do with you as you see fit. Nobody has the right to interfere with what you do with you. Nobody can take you away from you.

Vaccines, drugs and prostitution are all easy. You control what goes into your body because you belong to you.

Abortion is a stickier wicket because what is inside your body is a human being that exists, and that human being also possesses natural rights. What point along we decide that "existence" occurs is the central debate, but no matter where you fall, it is a sticky wicket and best left to the individual, as 100 different people can and will have 100 different opinions on the matter. I find abortion repugnant in every way, but no child has or will ever be in my body, regardless of how the LBTQ...lmnop_expialadocious folks want to try to redefine biology. Thus, not for me to say for any other body, as I only own me, and exactly nobody else.

Self-ownership, kids. It's where all your rights come from, endowed by existence itself.
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Old 07-08-2022, 11:03 AM
 
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Do what you want with your body but don't kill an innocent baby.
I didnt see that option in the poll.
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