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Old 07-11-2022, 07:13 PM
 
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Garland was highly respected on both sides of the aisle. He would in all likelihood would have easily been seated.

Before the 1/6 trials get through, McConnell might be sorry he didn't go that route.

More wishful thinking by clueless people. Being liked or being a nice guy has nothing to do with this. Obama didn't have the votes to pushed Garland. PERIOD!

Obama: I'm pushing Garland
U.S. Senate: You don't have the numbers
Obama: I'm pushing Garland
U.S. Senate: You don't have the numbers
Obama: I'm pushing Garland
U.S. Senate: You don't have the numbers.
Obama: Hillary is going to win and get Garland in S.C.
U.S. Senate: O.K.

The rest is history.

 
Old 07-11-2022, 07:16 PM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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In a normal world maybe, but not now. You all are delusional if you truly think Garland would have been confirmed in a Republican Senate, especially when Democrats haven't been very collegial with Republican President nominees for quite awhile.
Keep in mind we are talking six years ago. The other two Obama nominees to the Supreme Court (Kagan and Sotomayer) received more GOP votes than would have been needed to confirm Garland. Would he have had a ton of GOP support? No, would we have gotten four votes? Likely.
 
Old 07-11-2022, 07:25 PM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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In a normal world maybe, but not now. You all are delusional if you truly think Garland would have been confirmed in a Republican Senate, especially when Democrats haven't been very collegial with Republican President nominees for quite awhile.
We'll never know now, will we? Merrick Garland is going to secure his place in history as the AG who sent an ex prez to the hoosegow. Thanks, Mitch.
 
Old 07-11-2022, 07:26 PM
 
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Two different things entirely. Actually bringing someone up for a vote and voting them down is quite a bit different than not having the vote in the first place and coming out with some garbage that it was too close to an election.

Where in the constitution forces the Senate to have a vote? The Constitution imposes no such duty upon the Senate to hold confirmation hearings and to give a nominee an up-or-down vote.


Democrat controlled Senate in 1960 did it to Eisenhower and LBL also did it. Again, this is sour grapes. So is not like the Democrats never done it.


You as a Democrat it sucks for you. I understand, many Democrat mistakes and arrogance. RGB should have retired years before under Obama and get a progressive replacement and Hillary should have won a lay up election and she failed badly. Democrats should have won control of the U.S. Senate in 2014 and 2016 and they failed. It's time to stop crying.
 
Old 07-11-2022, 07:29 PM
 
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We'll never know now, will we? Merrick Garland is going to secure his place in history as the AG who sent an ex prez to the hoosegow. Thanks, Mitch.

LMAO!!!!! You Democrats said the same thing on Mueller now is Garland We trust. Go ahead so when Republicans win the DOJ, it's open season for everybody in that corrupt party. Go ahead, I dare Garland.
 
Old 07-11-2022, 07:49 PM
 
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LMAO!!!!! You Democrats said the same thing on Mueller now is Garland We trust. Go ahead so when Republicans win the DOJ, it's open season for everybody in that corrupt party. Go ahead, I dare Garland.
You may want to watch the hearing tomorrow. The propagandist for the oath Keepers who was Stewart Rhodes' roommate is going to testify, that we know of. Tomorrow has the potential to be way more explosive than Cassidy.

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Old 07-11-2022, 08:04 PM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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Where in the constitution forces the Senate to have a vote? The Constitution imposes no such duty upon the Senate to hold confirmation hearings and to give a nominee an up-or-down vote.


Democrat controlled Senate in 1960 did it to Eisenhower and LBL also did it. Again, this is sour grapes. So is not like the Democrats never done it.


You as a Democrat it sucks for you. I understand, many Democrat mistakes and arrogance. RGB should have retired years before under Obama and get a progressive replacement and Hillary should have won a lay up election and she failed badly. Democrats should have won control of the U.S. Senate in 2014 and 2016 and they failed. It's time to stop crying.
Who did Ike nominate that the Democrats blocked from having an up or down vote?
 
Old 07-11-2022, 09:03 PM
 
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Who did Ike nominate that the Democrats blocked from having an up or down vote?

Brennan. Recessed appointment. Democrat Senate passed senate resolution: "Expressing the sense of the Senate that the president should not make recess appointments to the Supreme Court, except to prevent or end a breakdown in the administration of the Court's business."


Schumer tried it in 2018. He wanted it after the 2018 election when he had the numbers (Democrats failed) but he tried:


Schumer: Senate Should Wait Until 2019 on SCOTUS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6nQnxN_7jU




Joe Biden Argued for Delaying Supreme Court Picks in 1992.



As a senator more than 3 decades ago, President Joseph R. Biden Jr. argued that President George Bush should delay filling a Supreme Court vacancy, should one arise, until the presidential election was over, and that it was “essential” that the Senate refuse to confirm a nominee to the court until then. https://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/23/u...s-in-1992.html




It depends where the Democrats stand in numbers. If they have the numbers they say 1 thing. If they don't have the numbers they say the opposite.
 
Old 07-11-2022, 09:07 PM
 
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You may want to watch the hearing tomorrow. The propagandist for the oath Keepers who was Stewart Rhodes' roommate is going to testify, that we know of. Tomorrow has the potential to be way more explosive than Cassidy.

Why watch? you will repeat here for weeks what comes out of the Kangaroo court. Word for word and b.s. for b.s.
 
Old 07-11-2022, 09:36 PM
 
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Nate Silver is a democratic hack.

He must be wrong he thinks the GOP will take the house and senate.But a lot of his stuff has to do with sports betting.

Republicans have an 86 percent chance of winning control of the House in November according to the Deluxe version of our model. But the Senate is much closer to a toss-up, with Republicans at a 53 percent chance of a takeover. Both of those numbers are pretty much the same as when we launched the model.
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