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Old 07-11-2022, 07:40 AM
 
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Looks like Cruz might need to go on vacation. Abbots too busy trying to create chaos at the border to get their power system under control despite just a year ago having people die from freezing. Looks like a bit of heat is too much too.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/tex...ay-2022-07-11/

After the failures earlier you would think this would be a priority.

BTW for those about to blame green energy etc, let me point out that Texas is not connected to the national power grid like most places, this is 100% All on Texas leadership.

Well today it is about green energy in great part. Wind is projected to produce at about 7-10% capacity this afternoon.

1. Our state grows by about 3,500-3,700 people per week and has for many years.
2. Businesses move here regularly.
3. We've shifted hard away from coal. In the main I support abandoning coal here in Texas FWIIW.
4. It's going to be ~105F here in Dallas today.
5. As said wind will underproduce today. Solar will produce well but for now our green mix is too wind heavy.


Most importantly there is so much solar coming on-line over the next 12-18 mos. this will be a problem of the past so soon so you'll have to crow about something else.
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Old 07-11-2022, 07:45 AM
 
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And historically, the Texas grid has avoided the problems in the other two grids and was better managed.
Don't know that they would give up 50 years of being better for the problems in the last 3 years.
Extremely fast population growth and a quick shift away from coal. We also allow solar and wind generation to be installed without mandated natural gas driven balancing power. Ergo we've overshot wind and solar vs. optimal gas balancing power. IMO it's the right call as we produce by far and away the most green power in the country. But morphing from significantly coal to very little coal very quickly comes with some pain.
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Old 07-11-2022, 07:45 AM
 
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It's what the people of Texas voted for. Why is it any of your business?
Who do you think sent all the money to your state when the power went out last winter?
AOC alone raised 5 million.
The money poured in for those in need.I don’t believe any was sent back with a No thank you note.
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Old 07-11-2022, 07:50 AM
 
Location: Southern Nevada
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Let AOC & the liberals run the system and they wouldn't have enough power to run a laptop. California, that bastion of liberalism, is also anticipating rolling blackouts.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...power-runs-low

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Old 07-11-2022, 07:54 AM
 
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It's also important to point point the OP's original claim is mostly a lie. TX' separate grid was spawned by democrats and allowed to function as such for decades under near 100% democrat rule. The roots of all this go back to the 1800s and coalesced into TX forming its own grid across the 1930s and 40s. ERCOT was established in the 1970s as something to a weak regulating body.

Republicans didn't take over in TX as the dominant party until the 1990s.


IOW as usually the OP's comments are comic book level finger pointing at best.
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Old 07-11-2022, 07:58 AM
 
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Let AOC & the liberals run the system and they wouldn't have enough power to run a laptop. California, that bastion of liberalism, is also anticipating rolling blackouts.
That's correct. Rolling blackouts have been a concern and issue in California for several years.

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/thread fail
Boy, fail is right! It was a big fail.
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Old 07-11-2022, 08:00 AM
 
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Looks like Cruz might need to go on vacation. Abbots too busy trying to create chaos at the border to get their power system under control despite just a year ago having people die from freezing. Looks like a bit of heat is too much too.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/tex...ay-2022-07-11/

After the failures earlier you would think this would be a priority.

BTW for those about to blame green energy etc, let me point out that Texas is not connected to the national power grid like most places, this is 100% All on Texas leadership.
The deregulation is nothing new and this is what the people of Texas have voted for.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deregu...tricity_market

As a result, they have electricity rates 17% below the national average but don't necessarily have as much reliability as there isn't much fat to invest in surplus and prevention which has lead to some power issues.

It's like flying a discount airline, you get what you pay for. This is up to the people of TX to change if they want.

Meanwhile, since you are concerned by the issue and the politicians running states with rolling blackouts here is a source for you to use in future discussions. Note CA is far out in front with about 2.5x more than 2nd place TX and their electricity costs roughly DOUBLE and rising fast.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/...outs-by-state/
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Old 07-11-2022, 08:01 AM
 
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Good lord. HEB would have no produce to sell.

When the gov was checking all the trucks crossing it was the buyers of produce rotting in waiting trucks that put a stop to it.

IIRC, when the freeze hit, the transmission people did not know how to do rolling blackouts. That's why it was just shut down.

We are told every coal fired plant in the state is running 24/7. Even tho ones that have been mothballed.

There is some speculation that running those at full throttle will cause them to break down. IDK
Texas doesn't do record freezes well because it doesn't happen much. Their money is more wisely spent dealing with heat.

Life happens sometimes. Bad government also happens in leveraging states away from reliable sources of energy.
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Old 07-11-2022, 08:24 AM
 
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Looks like Cruz might need to go on vacation. Abbots too busy trying to create chaos at the border to get their power system under control despite just a year ago having people die from freezing. Looks like a bit of heat is too much too.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/tex...ay-2022-07-11/

After the failures earlier you would think this would be a priority.

BTW for those about to blame green energy etc, let me point out that Texas is not connected to the national power grid like most places, this is 100% All on Texas leadership.
So the brown outs in Calif are a lie? The loss of elec in NY or Penn are a lie? Get a grip - the entire elec grid is stretch with the record heat we have. Stop with your doom and gloom crap already.
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Old 07-11-2022, 08:28 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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The state government runs the electrical grid? Doesn't sound like capitalism to me.

If somehow true then stop attacking "capitalism". We Don't have it.
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