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Old 07-19-2022, 12:53 PM
 
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Why? Better they see the iron have now than later. This child is too young to see or understand how horrible the republicans are portraying her dilema.
What are “the republicans” doing in terms of portraying her dilemma. The doctor made this public. The president made it international news. The Washington Post questioned it’s validity. What exactly are “the republicans doing” tot his poor girl that is so awful?

 
Old 07-19-2022, 12:54 PM
 
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Her dilemma .. as in:

She was raped by her mother's boyfriend, who'd also impregnated the mother and who lived in the same house as the mother?

That the mother seems to be good with the rape, since she's siding with the rapist?

That the child had to have an abortion because of the rape?

That the child didn't have to go to Indiana for an abortion, when she could have stayed in Ohio and had one done there?

That the Indiana doctor ran to the media to use this child as political fodder?

That those on the left had been using this child as political fodder too, by pretty much ignoring all of the facts listed above and seeming to concentrate only on that the girl traveled for the abortion (when she didn't need to)?
All of this is the republicans fault. Don’t you know?
 
Old 07-19-2022, 12:55 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Her dilemma .. as in:

She was raped by her mother's boyfriend, who'd also impregnated the mother and who lived in the same house as the mother?

That the mother seems to be good with the rape, since she's siding with the rapist?

That the child had to have an abortion because of the rape?

That the child didn't have to go to Indiana for an abortion, when she could have stayed in Ohio and had one done there?

That the Indiana doctor ran to the media to use this child as political fodder?

That those on the left had been using this child as political fodder too, by pretty much ignoring all of the facts listed above and seeming to concentrate only on that the girl traveled for the abortion (when she didn't need to)?
Do we even know that the mother actually went to a doctor nearby, or did she go to a different state thinking she could hide the rape from being reported to the police?
 
Old 07-19-2022, 12:57 PM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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What are “the republicans” doing in terms of portraying her dilemma. The doctor made this public. The president made it international news. The Washington Post questioned it’s validity. What exactly are “the republicans doing” tot his poor girl that is so awful?
Many denying it happened and the AG going after those who helped her. Can you not see ?
 
Old 07-19-2022, 12:57 PM
 
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The issue is not roller coasters. The doctor clearly made the appropriate reports.

The Attorney General is now under fire - from lawyers - for not retracting his claim that the proper reports were not done.

https://www.indystar.com/story/news/...d/65376436007/

Cease and desist letter from Dr. Bernard's attorney:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1LBG..._nnnfK0in/view
Are you getting some insider information showing that the doctor CLEARLY made the report because that is not really clear.

Nothing you posted above clears this up.
 
Old 07-19-2022, 12:59 PM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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Do we even know that the mother actually went to a doctor nearby, or did she go to a different state thinking she could hide the rape from being reported to the police?
DCF took her to another state after deemed child abuse n rape of a minor. How much the agency n mom agreed on is not public that I know of.
 
Old 07-19-2022, 01:00 PM
 
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The media source obscures this, but it is legal to get an abortion for a 10 year old rape victim in Indiana. The AG is investigating the trouble with the forms' inaccuracies, which is a big deal.




Good points.




That is not a very good point to say that the government should overlook a potential crime within a rape case, because local journalists say the forms were okay.

Even more so that is a bad point as there was a significant error on the form that concealed the crime of rape. Who did that and why? If he lived in the home, it likely wasn't an honest mistake. Who concealed it? The girl's family or the doctor?
Why do we think the Dr put the wrong age in purpose, the doctor is just filling out what the patient tells them.
 
Old 07-19-2022, 01:01 PM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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All of this is the republicans fault. Don’t you know?
It’s not the fault she was raped - it’s their f attitude about her next step to abort it.
 
Old 07-19-2022, 01:10 PM
 
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He clearly did outline them:

one to prevent the death of the mother, the second, due to a serious risk of the substantial and irreversible impairment of a major bodily function of the pregnant mother, and the third in cases of an ectopic pregnancy.

A ten year old forced to give birth would prob kill her and cause serious harm to her. If a law says it's illegal to cause physical injury to another person, would you claim it doesn't cover being hit with a baseball bat, just because the DA did not specifically say "hitting someone with a baseball bat?" Apparently so.
We know that 10 year olds have given birth. No doctor can assume this girl would die or suffer serious physical harm from remaining pregnant. Therefore, the 'immediancy' standard in the law doesn't exist. A prosecutor could file criminal charges.

If you're suggesting the patient being 10 years old in and of itself is legal justification for an abortion, we simply disagree. The AG wrote: "Whether these exceptions apply to a particular case depends on the facts of that case." He could easily have written that 10 year olds automatically fall within the exemptions, but didn't.

I've seen embryos compared to peas, clumps of cells, acorns, parasites, never before to baseball bats.
 
Old 07-19-2022, 01:10 PM
 
Location: 23.7 million to 162 million miles North of Venus
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Not necessarily so and time was not in her favor. Ten yr olds can deliver babies and have unfortunately done so.
Yes, it was "so".

She could have had it done in Ohio, but her abortionists couldn't let the opportunity to make a political statement pass by.

"Complications during pregnancy and childbirth are the leading cause of death for 15–19-year-old girls globally. (3)"

https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-s...20problem.%201

If it's the leading cause of death, globally, for girls age 15-19 then it's the same, or maybe worse, for a 9-10yo.
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