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Old 07-15-2022, 10:17 AM
 
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Nope! The Supreme Court ruled that the issue of abortion is a state issue. Texas is suing to stop federal government overreach!
Exactly. It’s mind boggling to witness what is going on across the entire political landscape these days, as it seems that a Supreme Court ruling holds no greater weight in the eyes of the communist leftists than one of their Chinese fortune cookie messages.

What did New York just do in response to the SC ruling their restrictions on gun permits unconstitutional? They doubled down with even more egregious restrictions. Ain’t that a peach.

We have, unbeknownst to a significant element of the population, a federal government that has been captured by foreign interests hostile to America, and the American public, and have done nothing to hide that fact now, as they have initiated their full on assault in broad daylight. We are under biological attack. We are under financial attack. Our borders are under attack. Energy is being attacked, and now, our food supply is being targeted.

Then, we also have the criminal in the WH informing us there is another “pandemic” on the way? How does he know?

Ahhh … just go back to sleep. It’s all just a conspiracy theory.
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Old 07-15-2022, 10:21 AM
 
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Texas was already adhering to it, as their own law stipulates this.

Texas does not want to tolerate federal government overreach, hence the lawsuit. Progressives are mad at the President for "not doing anything" about abortion. To use a phrase from my friends on the left, this was a "dog whistle" for the pro-abortion crowd.
I see it as this federal administration run by leftists giving the conservative majority on the Supreme Court a big fat one finger salute. That’s what this is about.

Texas is just returning the gesture.
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Old 07-15-2022, 10:23 AM
 
Location: South of Heaven
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"Texas Sues Biden Over New Rule Making Abortions Available to Save the Life of the Mother"

Good. Biden's string pullers are trying to set a dangerous precedent here. If the feds can regulate abortion at the national level for "X" then it follows it can also regulate for "Y" and for "Z". Let the states decide.
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Old 07-15-2022, 12:04 PM
 
Location: SF/Mill Valley
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This is what we are dealing with. Shameless liars who have no boundaries to the level of dishonesty they will go. .
I agree there are no boundaries to the level some people (states) will go, per the thread. Do you think the EMTALA is a sham - or is it your opinion federal law does not apply to Texas?

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As a side note, the Supreme Court just ruled that the matter of abortion is a state issue, not under federal authority. Consequently, the attempt to circumvent Texas law by federal authority which the court ruled as non-existing, is a fraud at face value.
The SC ruling (which brought an end to federal protection for abortion) does not negate federal law re: the Emergency Medical Treatment and Labor Act. Relative to the Supremacy Clause, said federal law takes precedence. It’s pretty simple, despite your bizarre feeling it is criminally deceptive i.e. fraudulent.
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Old 07-15-2022, 12:14 PM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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So the federal government wants to force abortions?
What happened to a mother's health decisions being between herself and her doctor?
This federal intrusion is nothing more than a PR ploy by the biden administration.
Democrats have gone cuckoo over the politics of abortion
How did you come up with that ?? Forced abortions? WTH? It’s wanting women to have OPTIONS!!
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Old 07-15-2022, 03:10 PM
 
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Texas allows an abortion to occur at any point in a pregnancy if the mother's life is at risk. In fact, every single state has an exception if the life of the mother is at risk. This is more overreach from the Biden administration.
However, it's not overreach because an increasing number of Texas hospitals are simply refusing to treat women with pregnancy complications, as they fear the consequences of potentially violating state law:

Texas Medical Association says hospitals are refusing to treat women with pregnancy complications
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Old 07-15-2022, 03:13 PM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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The new rule mentions both protecting the life and health of the mother. I guess the term health does seem vague and could be interpreted as applying to mental health.

Either way, I support abortion rights up to 12 weeks, which is about the max that most miscarriages can happen.
The WH is trying to create a loophole like they tried with covid and OSHA.

It will go to the courts.
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Old 07-15-2022, 03:29 PM
 
Location: Kansas
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Texas allows an abortion to occur at any point in a pregnancy if the mother's life is at risk. In fact, every single state has an exception if the life of the mother is at risk. This is more overreach from the Biden administration.
Exactly! It has to do with Biden/Federal Government overreach into the rights of States to decide certain issues and what laws the people of that State wanted enacted.

I swear, I cannot figure out why it is so hard for some of these people to understand that the States' rights are being trampled on by the federal government, specifically Biden (who thinks he is king, when he can think at all). They still haven't figured out the ruling on Roe vs Wade, and my bet is they never will, as they are simply parrots of MSM (and the abortion industry which has to be funding the effort heavily).
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Old 07-15-2022, 09:58 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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However, it's not overreach because an increasing number of Texas hospitals are simply refusing to treat women with pregnancy complications, as they fear the consequences of potentially violating state law:

Texas Medical Association says hospitals are refusing to treat women with pregnancy complications
I wouldn't be surprised that the above results from legislators consulting with anti-abortion fanatics, who want all or nearly all abortion banned, rather than from actual doctors when writing anti-abortion laws.
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Old 07-15-2022, 10:05 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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But, Texas already has a law that states an abortion is acceptable if it is necessary to save the life of the mother. In fact, all fifty state have this.

The only reason the Biden Administration did this was to "appear" like they "did" something, even though Texas law allowed for this...
The problem is that if a Doctor has to wait until the mother is dying, she might very well die, but to perform an abortion earlier would likely get the doctor arrested.
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