Exactly as predicted: hospitals turning away women with ectopic pregnancies in TX (ethics, deaths)
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You should really re-read what Chuckity responded to. That poster implied that anyone who decided to keep the baby of a rapist was crazy and that the baby would grow up to be bad because of who their father was. It’s really extreme.
Here’s a corroboration of one of the allegations, that a woman whose membrane ruptured at 19 weeks (pre viability) had to travel out of state to have the pregnancy terminated before she potentially went into sepsis.
She ended up flying where she risked going into labour on the plane.
Quote:
'You're at a high chance of going septic or bleeding out,' " she says the doctors told her — a risk of infection or hemorrhage, which could become deadly. " 'And unfortunately, we recommend termination, but we cannot provide you one here in Texas because of this law.' "
In Anna's situation, a patient would normally be offered two options: wait and watch for signs of danger, or terminate the pregnancy, which is usually the safest option and most guaranteed to preserve future fertility.
But under Texas law, abortions are allowed at that stage only for severe medical emergencies, defined as when a patient is "in danger of death or a serious risk of substantial impairment of a major bodily function."
That’s really extreme. I don’t think most people would support that law.
it's not a law. It's a party platform.
And I'd agree, other than a majority of Idahoans more pissed at CA's ruining their state, I'd be surprised if enough candidates running on that item would get elected.
Here’s a corroboration of one of the allegations, that a woman whose membrane ruptured at 19 weeks (pre viability) had to travel out of state to have the pregnancy terminated before she potentially went into sepsis.
She ended up flying where she risked going into labour on the plane.
The definition of "life of the mother" is very nebulous. Doctors are, not surprisingly, reluctant to be the test case for prosecution.
Prosecutor "Isn't it true, Doctor Smith, that you could have waited another <arbitrary number of days> to see if the woman whose unborn child you aborted would have had no complications."
Dr "It is always better to perform the abortion before the patient is in serious trouble..."
Prosecutor, interrupting, "That's a yes or no answer type of question. Please answer yes or no"
Dr "I can't answer it that way, because it is not..."
Prosecutor interrupting "Your Honor, please instruct the witness to answer yes or no"
you should write for Hollywood.
Your real world concern would be an extreme "pro-life" HCP getting involved in the diagnoses of the women before the abortion would occur.
Entire article well worth a read. Regression to the Stone Age is well underway, clearly.
the only thing of value in the article - and given the Dr Munoz it quotes must be the same article posted again and again - is the bit about 28 women under 23 weeks of pregnancy.
Here’s a corroboration of one of the allegations, that a woman whose membrane ruptured at 19 weeks (pre viability) had to travel out of state to have the pregnancy terminated before she potentially went into sepsis.
She ended up flying where she risked going into labour on the plane.
As a medic, I think her story is certainly questionable....
if her membrane ruptured, not only she, but the unborn baby (as you said 19 weeks, not yet viable) was in danger... the loss of a non-(not yet)-viable baby is a consequence, a tragic consequence, but the loss of her life, if not treated...is negligent murder..... any medical professional worth his or her salt, would have treated the woman, consoled her on the loss of the baby, but helped her celebrate, the FACT that she is alive, to try again.
so yes I think either she is spinning the story, or she had a crappy quack doctor, who should not be practicing
As a medic, I think her story is certainly questionable....
if her membrane ruptured, not only she, but the unborn baby (as you said 19 weeks, not yet viable) was in danger... the loss of a non-(not yet)-viable baby is a consequence, a tragic consequence, but the loss of her life, if not treated...is negligent murder..... any medical professional worth his or her salt, would have treated the woman, consoled her on the loss of the baby, but helped her celebrate, the FACT that she is alive, to try again.
so yes I think either she is spinning the story, or she had a crappy quack doctor, who should not be practicing
In order to “treat” her they had to kill a foetus with a heartbeat. That is a path that’s now very dicey for doctors in some states, even if it’s the right thing to do for the mother.
Her life wasn’t yet in danger, it would have depended on how things progressed.
The medically prudent thing to have done would have been to perform the abortion, clear out and clean up the uterus, and in doing so prevent her from either having to deliver a non viable baby that was going to die or have it die in utero and potentially give her a nasty infection that could have killed her. (That’s my lay person’s interpretation, please correct me if I have it wrong).
But as her life was not in imminent danger, the doctors decided they couldn’t treat her (ie give her an abortion) and she decided to travel to get it done rather than take the risk.
Not on death’s door enough for doctors to be completely certain they were within the statute, but enough that she had to make the choice to travel out of state to get the medically prudent treatment. As a medic, you must surely resonate with such a scenario.
All this while losing a wanted baby.
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