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Old 07-24-2022, 06:11 AM
 
Location: Michigan
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Originally Posted by InformedConsent View Post
Oh, great... Even more of the left's functional illiteracy on display...

Handmaid's Tale is about women being forced to have unprotected sex to breed. That's the exact opposite of what's actually happening... 95% of unintended pregnancies are due to women VOLUNTARILY participating in unprotected sex, by their own admission (Guttmacher, Planned Parenthood's research subsidiary). The problem is women and their partners aren't even bothering to get and USE birth control to prevent pregnancy.

No one is forcing them to have unprotected sex and get pregnant. They're doing that to themselves.
This thread is not about abortion. And as a fervent opponent of abortion I assume you support access to contraception. As you note, people are less likely to get pregnant if they are allowed to have protection.

 
Old 07-24-2022, 06:14 AM
 
Location: Just over the horizon
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So what you are saying is that Republicans agree there is a right to contraception but there were other clauses that they disagreed with?

I'll go see.


I'm saying that I don't know what the details are .

But if history political teaches us anything, it's that Democrats love to play silly games with the what a bill is called vs what it actually does.


Does the "Affordable Care Act" ring a bell?
 
Old 07-24-2022, 06:16 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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This thread is not about abortion. And as a fervent opponent of abortion I assume you support access to contraception. As you note, people are less likely to get pregnant if they are allowed to have protection.
I was responding to someone else who deliberately invoked The Handmaid's Tale, not you. Mind your own business.

Why shouldn't I explain to illiterate lefties how idiotic their constant allusions to The Handmaid's Tale are and how stupid it makes them look? Birth control is easily accessible and over 4,000 taxpayer-funded Title X Family Planning Clinics provide it for FREE, so WHY aren't women and their partners USING it if they don't want to get pregnant? WHERE is the HUGE DISCONNECT between I don't want to get pregnant... and... but I'm not going to bother to use any birth control?
 
Old 07-24-2022, 06:31 AM
 
Location: Michigan
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I was responding to someone else who deliberately invoked The Handmaid's Tale, not you. Mind your own business.

Why shouldn't I explain to illiterate lefties how idiotic their constant allusions to The Handmaid's Tale are and how stupid it makes them look? Birth control is easily accessible and over 4,000 taxpayer-funded Title X Family Planning Clinics provide it for FREE, so WHY aren't women and their partners USING it if they don't want to get pregnant? WHERE is the HUGE DISCONNECT between I don't want to get pregnant... and... but I'm not going to bother to use any birth control?
Which is why this thread......people are understandably concerned by some of the more extreme politicians that have said they would restrict access to contraception. If that happens, the argument that birth control is easily accessible will no longer be valid. Your argument regarding abortion is hollow in a thread about keeping birth control accessible.
 
Old 07-24-2022, 06:50 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Which is why this thread......people are understandably concerned by some of the more extreme politicians that have said they would restrict access to contraception. If that happens, the argument that birth control is easily accessible will no longer be valid. Your argument regarding abortion is hollow in a thread about keeping birth control accessible.
That's total BS, and you know it. There is NO state that is proposing making all forms of birth control illegal. NONE. Get a clue.
 
Old 07-24-2022, 08:08 AM
 
Location: Retired in VT; previously MD & NJ
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How so?

Point by point, if you please.....
Stop being so lazy. Go read the book or watch the show. It will then become obvious to you. Don't be asking posters to do a book report for you.
 
Old 07-24-2022, 08:11 AM
 
Location: Retired in VT; previously MD & NJ
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Which state wants to do this?

And don't include the morning after pill, because that's not contraception.
Are you ok with a state banning the morning after pill? That one is ok to ban?
 
Old 07-24-2022, 08:15 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Stop being so lazy. Go read the book or watch the show. It will then become obvious to you. Don't be asking posters to do a book report for you.
Take your own advice, PLEASE! The idiotic pro-death left has NOT comprehended what actually happens in the book.

The Handmaid's Tale is about women being forced to have unprotected sex to breed. That's the exact opposite of what's actually currently happening... 95% of unintended pregnancies are due to women VOLUNTARILY participating in unprotected sex, by their own admission (Guttmacher, Planned Parenthood's research subsidiary). The problem is women and their sex partners aren't even bothering to get and USE birth control to prevent pregnancy.

No one is forcing them to have unprotected sex and get pregnant. They're doing that to themselves.
 
Old 07-24-2022, 08:16 AM
 
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Devil is in the details....

What else what is in the bill?

How is "right to contraception" defined??

If you can't afford contraception, do you have a "right" to make me pay for it?.

Details.... details.......
The devil is always in the details AND the little poison pills the Leftists sneak into their bills.
The definition seems mostly OK, although as usual a bit vague on medical advice.

I read the bill 3 times, as usual it refers back to other legislation and the you have to read those in an attempt to figure out what it’s really saying. This bill turns a Biden Executive Order on Abortion into Federal Law.

Doubtful it would pass Constitutional muster and the Democrats know this - it’s just virtue signaling for Election purpose.

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I think there's a misunderstanding about what the legislation actually does. It doesn't make contraception a "right" the way you seem to be describing it. All it does, as I understand it, is it makes certain that anyone who wants access to contraceptives can have it by preventing state and local governments from potentially outlawing contraception for their citizens. I don't see why that should be such a controversial issue - no government, either at the federal, state, or local level, should be deciding for any of us whether we in our consensual relationships should be accessing or using contraception for our sexual relations or not. That should be between consenting couples themselves and their doctors, IMHO. After all, the government doesn't belong in our bedrooms.

It's interesting to see how many conservatives actually support the legislation...
On its face without delving into the details (of this particular bill) — why would anyone disagree with Contraception that has been around for many decades? The real question is —- what else does this do?

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States have done this. That’s why it was a Supreme Court case to begin with.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Griswold_v._Connecticut
BREAKING NEWS!

It’s 2022 and not a single State believes it 1965 AND not a single State has proposed anything as ridiculous as making .contraception illegal. NONE and they won’t.
 
Old 07-24-2022, 08:21 AM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
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Which is why this thread......people are understandably concerned by some of the more extreme politicians that have said they would restrict access to contraception. If that happens, the argument that birth control is easily accessible will no longer be valid.
There are 12 different forms of birth control.

If the left loves science so much, why don’t they understand the 12 forms of science that prevent babies?

Birth control is, and will always be, easily accessible. To say otherwise is an insult to the intellect of women everywhere.
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Birth control methods vary far and wide. There’s a method for nearly every body and lifestyle. In fact, there are about 12 methods in total and counting.
https://www.plannedparenthood.org/pl...-birth-control
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