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Old 07-24-2022, 11:14 AM
 
Location: Southeast US
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to simplify, amplify and even correct:

99% of thus think of contraception as "preventing conception", yes?

However, where the line will be drawn - and IMO shouldn't, but this is the actual fact - is post-conception contraception (aka abortifacients), for example the "morning after pill"

 
Old 07-24-2022, 11:21 AM
 
Location: Retired in VT; previously MD & NJ
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Originally Posted by Eyebee Teepee View Post
to simplify, amplify and even correct:

99% of thus think of contraception as "preventing conception", yes?

However, where the line will be drawn - and IMO shouldn't, but this is the actual fact - is post-conception contraception (aka abortifacients), for example the "morning after pill"
Most people don't know the difference between birth control methods that prevent conception and BC methods that prevent implantation. A lot of the argument is because many do not know the difference. Until the Abortifacients are made illegal and then they will ask why their BC method was made illegal.
 
Old 07-24-2022, 12:01 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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After Clarence Thomas declared that the constitutional right to contraception should be reconsidered just like Roe was, Democrats passed a bill in the House of Representatives to make the right to contraception a federal law, despite Republican opposition, so that no American in any state would ever have to fear losing their access to contraception simply based on where they live:

House Dems pass Right to Contraception Act despite GOP opposition - MSNBC
Because it's stupid. Making it a Right to receive contraception pills is moronic. The law and the article seem to frame this as if it's a Right that needs to be provided to you.

Like just about everything, the dems think government exists to magically provide you with whatever free stuff the dems can name. I suppose giving away free contraception to all US citizens, in all it's varied forms, should be a requirement for daring to be a pharmaceutical company operating in the US.
 
Old 07-24-2022, 12:47 PM
 
Location: NJ
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makes zero sense to make contraceptives a 'right'. Not needed. good only for virtue signaling.

Thousand other items would of course follow that precedent. the idiocy of the left is astounding.

Contraceptives galore, no one is stopping you. the left;s version of tin hats is the slippery slope. Every scenario they examine leads to eventual death and deprivation.
 
Old 07-24-2022, 12:51 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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That leave 16% who would ban contraceptives if given the chance. That's a lot of people.
16% doesn't win elections, not even party primaries.
 
Old 07-24-2022, 01:11 PM
 
Location: New Albany, Indiana (Greater Louisville)
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Basic US system if federal level determines a base level for human rights and states are free to do anything at or beyond that level. So the debate should be whether contraception should be considered a human right, also whether it is a freedom of religion issue. Seems like only fundamentalist Catholics have an issue with birth control on a moral level so it seems that to do a law based on the Catholic standard would violate freedom of religion for everyone else.
 
Old 07-24-2022, 01:13 PM
 
Location: California
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You know there's a way this and other things CAN BE FEDERAL RIGHTS but that way isn't via SCOTUS.
 
Old 07-24-2022, 01:35 PM
 
Location: So Cal
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I don't know anyone who gives two craps about contraception and whether or not it should be a right.
Agreed.

It's clearly a dog whistle on the left to rip on the conservative crowd.
 
Old 07-24-2022, 01:36 PM
 
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I don't know anyone who gives two craps about contraception and whether or not it should be a right.
Do you know younger women of childbearing age? It’s a huge concern for them. Clearly this isn’t an issue for those past menopause.

And once more, it’s the right to purchase at your own expense with input from your doctor. No one is expecting free contraception. This is America, we’re too stupid to do that.
 
Old 07-24-2022, 01:37 PM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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Agreed.

It's clearly a dog whistle on the left to rip on the conservative crowd.
In fact I never heard anything about it until the SC ruling on RvW.
Then it was from the left...."next they're gonna to take away......." mantra as usual.
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