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Old 07-23-2022, 08:52 PM
 
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Where the dollar has reached 1-1 parity with the Euro for the first time in the 21st century. And while our gas is at $5 a gallon , Germany is offering monthly unlimited travel by euro-rail for 9 euros a month that’s now $9 bucks a month to travel all over a country unlimited travel

We used to say live in America because take home pay goes way farther , there’s no taxes to pay for healthcare and parental leave and massive social services, BUT

With the doubling and tripling of monthly rents, that more than equates what is like an average Joe getting hit with an encroaching cost of living that leaves NOTHING to be saved . And doing a cost-benefit analysis on moving to Hamburg, Germany or Barcelona, Spain or somewhere in Prague or a villa in Montenegro and working remote vpn …. And having those costs of living

Yes it looks like it is for the first time maybe ever in recent history , mathematically true that you can save more money not living in America than you can living in America …. Because thousands and thousands a month for rent gas and medical and student loans is hitting us harder than European taxes are hitting Europeans
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Old 07-23-2022, 08:54 PM
 
Location: Howard County, Maryland
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It seems like it's mostly liberals who extoll the virtues of Europe, so why don't they move there en masse? Those of us who prefer the traditional American way of life can stay here, and bring things back under control.
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Old 07-23-2022, 08:57 PM
 
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But we have freedom in America and they don’t.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/co...dex-by-country

Oh wait…
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Old 07-23-2022, 08:57 PM
 
Location: Retired in VT; previously MD & NJ
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So move! If you can get a job visa there.

There are some EU countries that might allow you to apply for citizenship based on a recent ancestor's immigration. If you get citizenship in one EU country, you can work in any of them. I have a grandchild who was looking onto this based on my grandmother's country of origin.
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Old 07-23-2022, 08:58 PM
 
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bECAUSE some of us cant speak their language,we are too inflexible to change and adapt,besides without Russian gas,it will be bloody cold this winter.
German eat a lot of sausage,we want real beef for real men and women
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Old 07-23-2022, 08:59 PM
 
Location: Retired in VT; previously MD & NJ
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bECAUSE some of us cant speak their language,we are too inflexible to change and adapt,besides without Russian gas,it will be bloody cold this winter.
German eat a lot of sausage,we want real beef for real men and women
Lol
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Old 07-23-2022, 09:05 PM
 
Location: Richland, Washington
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Liberals should start moving to Europe and take their ideology with them. The United States is better off without them.
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Old 07-23-2022, 09:14 PM
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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We used to say live in America because take home pay goes way farther , there’s no taxes to pay for healthcare and parental leave and massive social services, BUT
When did we ever say that ????



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Yes it looks like it is for the first time maybe ever in recent history , mathematically true that you can save more money not living in America than you can living in America …. Because thousands and thousands a month for rent gas and medical and student loans is hitting us harder than European taxes are hitting Europeans
Its been cheaper to live in most european countries.


People are too worried about tax rates, and not worried enough about total costs. Does it really matter if personal income tax is a flat 30% with no exceptions if everything else overall is cheaper ?
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Old 07-23-2022, 09:16 PM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
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Expat here, who has lived in several countries, few things:

1. You can’t move, live, or work long term in any country without a visa, period.

2. Europe is expensive as hell. You want cheap then try SE Asia or South America.

3. Germany, again, you’ll need a visa to move, live, and work there. They have strict immigration laws.

4. You better learn German. Germany is not an English friendly country like Netherlands. I lived in Germany for a year and was very dependent on Google translate.

5. You don’t need to apply for citizenship or marry some local. Again, you need to find a company who can sponsor you a visa, or be really rich, or have a remote job.
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Old 07-23-2022, 09:16 PM
 
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Liberals should start moving to Europe and take their ideology with them. The United States is better off without them.
For me this is antithesis of what the Founding Fathers thought for this country.

And there is the irony. This demand we all be conservatives or get out is totally against everything the Founding Fathers intended.
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