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Old 07-25-2022, 12:41 PM
 
Location: Downtown Cranberry Twp.
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People are only posting this stuff because they somehow think the "millions" fleeing the blue states are somehow "sticking" it to the blue states. It just feeds the ongoing narrative on here.

Yes, people are moving. Most are moving for the weather - not because the blue states suddenly suck. Be honest for once people.

The question I have - does FL even have the infrastructure to support this supposed mass exodus from the so called blue states? Based on my travels - it does not - so good luck to those who think this is somehow a good thing.

I only know one couple who recently moved to Miami. No kids (because lets face it - no one is moving to FL for its school system) and they are big-time liberals. Good luck with that whole red vs blue thing.
Nah, they’re leaving because of Dem state nonsense the last 2 years, and it’ll continue.

https://www.rga.org/new-study-finds-...gop-governors/

https://fee.org/articles/lockdown-we...gures-show/amp

https://www.newsweek.com/since-pande...-1675187?amp=1
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Old 07-25-2022, 01:04 PM
 
Location: Boston
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Car insurance - Florida drivers pay an average of $2,364 per year for full coverage, which is 41% more than the national annual average of $1,674.

Home insurance - Florida homeowners will pay an average of $4,231 for home insurance in 2022, compared to $1,544 for the average U.S. homeowner.

The median monthly rent for a two-bedroom apartment in Florida was more than $1,500—nearly 27% higher than the national median of $1,200.

Florida collects an average of $615 in yearly excise taxes per capita, one of the highest average per capita excise taxes in the country.

Florida gas taxes - 8th highest in the nation

Florida cigarette taxes - 26th in the nation

Florida Cellphone Tax -4th highest in the nation

Florida Beer Tax - 10th highest beer tax in the nation

Florida Wine Tax - 3rd highest wine tax in the nation

Florida Liquor Tax - 20th highest liquor tax in the nation
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Old 07-25-2022, 01:14 PM
 
Location: Homeless...
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Florida Income Tax - Zero
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Old 07-25-2022, 01:44 PM
 
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Car insurance - Florida drivers pay an average of $2,364 per year for full coverage, which is 41% more than the national annual average of $1,674.

Home insurance - Florida homeowners will pay an average of $4,231 for home insurance in 2022, compared to $1,544 for the average U.S. homeowner.

The median monthly rent for a two-bedroom apartment in Florida was more than $1,500—nearly 27% higher than the national median of $1,200.

Florida collects an average of $615 in yearly excise taxes per capita, one of the highest average per capita excise taxes in the country.

Florida gas taxes - 8th highest in the nation

Florida cigarette taxes - 26th in the nation

Florida Cellphone Tax -4th highest in the nation

Florida Beer Tax - 10th highest beer tax in the nation

Florida Wine Tax - 3rd highest wine tax in the nation

Florida Liquor Tax - 20th highest liquor tax in the nation
Valid point for car insurance and homeowners insurance although the latter will vary wildly depending where you live in the state etc.

Not sure all of that is quite apples to apples fair and you left out any points the other direction.

That being said, the states like NY losing people to FL aren't crying over some 20-something moving down there with a friend to bartend and share an apartment. They're complaining about a couple that's going to be pulling down 250k/year in retirement income (or more) and the state income taxes on that would be about 15k/year.

That's not even touching property taxes.
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Old 07-25-2022, 01:49 PM
 
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Car insurance - Florida drivers pay an average of $2,364 per year for full coverage, which is 41% more than the national annual average of $1,674.

Home insurance - Florida homeowners will pay an average of $4,231 for home insurance in 2022, compared to $1,544 for the average U.S. homeowner.

The median monthly rent for a two-bedroom apartment in Florida was more than $1,500—nearly 27% higher than the national median of $1,200.

Florida collects an average of $615 in yearly excise taxes per capita, one of the highest average per capita excise taxes in the country.

Florida gas taxes - 8th highest in the nation

Florida cigarette taxes - 26th in the nation

Florida Cellphone Tax -4th highest in the nation

Florida Beer Tax - 10th highest beer tax in the nation

Florida Wine Tax - 3rd highest wine tax in the nation

Florida Liquor Tax - 20th highest liquor tax in the nation
How do you hide how much taxation and elevated the cost of living cost a state has? Avoid having a state tax but put high taxes and fees on everything people actually need or do in the state. High parking costs at beaches, the high licensing costs for professions, on and on.

I love having 0 income tax and I am sure there are social costs for that (underfunded schools, bridges, social services) but many think 0 income tax means low taxes and cost of living which is not the case.

THe one positive, if you come to Florida and do nothing at all, just come here to retire then the state can feel very low cost which is why the retirees love it
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Old 07-25-2022, 01:56 PM
 
Location: Central Mass
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The failed Ivy League Lawyers y'all voted for up there are gonna get their fed tax dollars, no matter where you live, but Florida lets you keep more of the rest of than anyplace else
False.
There are 10 states that lets you keep more than Florida.
4 of the top 5 are in the North: Alaska, Wyoming, Tennessee, South Dakota, Michigan.
Most of 6-10 are in the South: Texas, North Dakota, Georgia, South Carolina, Oklahoma.
Those 10 states have a lower tax burden than Florida. https://taxfoundation.org/tax-burden-by-state-2022/

And don't forget, Desantis is a two time failed Ivy League lawyer. Went to Yale and Harvard.
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Old 07-25-2022, 02:00 PM
 
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You can only realize that equity if you sell it and then can find a cheaper house.


Many Americans have the same situation right now. House values have soared in three years. It's crazy.

Florida is not unique.
Yeah, it's not unique for California, Illinois, New York, New Jersey, Minnesota to lose huge amounts of AGI while Florida gains several times the loss of each state. Right.

Keep trying. Maybe SOMEONE will believe your ridiculous and non supported by fact posts.
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Old 07-25-2022, 02:01 PM
 
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Car insurance - Florida drivers pay an average of $2,364 per year for full coverage, which is 41% more than the national annual average of $1,674.

Home insurance - Florida homeowners will pay an average of $4,231 for home insurance in 2022, compared to $1,544 for the average U.S. homeowner.

The median monthly rent for a two-bedroom apartment in Florida was more than $1,500—nearly 27% higher than the national median of $1,200.

Florida collects an average of $615 in yearly excise taxes per capita, one of the highest average per capita excise taxes in the country.

Florida gas taxes - 8th highest in the nation

Florida cigarette taxes - 26th in the nation

Florida Cellphone Tax -4th highest in the nation

Florida Beer Tax - 10th highest beer tax in the nation

Florida Wine Tax - 3rd highest wine tax in the nation

Florida Liquor Tax - 20th highest liquor tax in the nation
What's your source for this? Or did you just have all that in your head?
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Old 07-25-2022, 02:03 PM
 
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Florida Income Tax - Zero
Florida property tax = half of Illinois tax.
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Old 07-25-2022, 02:06 PM
 
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How do you hide how much taxation and elevated the cost of living cost a state has? Avoid having a state tax but put high taxes and fees on everything people actually need or do in the state. High parking costs at beaches, the high licensing costs for professions, on and on.

I love having 0 income tax and I am sure there are social costs for that (underfunded schools, bridges, social services) but many think 0 income tax means low taxes and cost of living which is not the case.

THe one positive, if you come to Florida and do nothing at all, just come here to retire then the state can feel very low cost which is why the retirees love it
I paid for so many things besides state taxes in Illinois. I paid $1400 for the bus for my two kids to school along with $600 in textbooks and $200 for computers. So I saved $2300 moving right out of the gate. They charge over double for car registration in Illinois. Double property taxes and 4.95% state tax.
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