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I, personally, know a couple of people who got vaccinated and still got hospitalized from Covid. So count me in as one of those people who doesn't believe the vaccines prevent serious illness.
I, personally, know a couple of people who got vaccinated and still got hospitalized from Covid. So count me in as one of those people who doesn't believe the vaccines prevent serious illness.
So in order for you to take the vaccine, it's got to be 100% prevention for you or nothing else will do?
I'm not criticizing if that's your choice, just trying to clarify. If you look at the numbers in the earlier study cited, 29% of those unvaccinated died over the fully vaccinated and fully boosted, 4% died who had the first vaccine series and one booster over those with 2 boosters. What is missing (and maybe it's there) is the percentage of those who have died with the initial series and two boosters. I'll bet that number is not ZERO but it's going to be lower than those in the categories less vaccinated.
Personally, I don't need a 100% guarantee I won't get seriously ill, but if the data shows that my chances of living are improved, that's important to me when making the decision. That all weighs against your own risks.
Actually, they aren't the "source" as in doing their own studies. Their data comes from what each individual state is reporting. This data is publicly accessible and easily, easily refutable by anyone who wants to get out there and point out that states might be lying.
In that overall reporting it shows the bes to the worst with regard to deaths and vaccine status. In this link, which again, everything comes from the data from the states:
If you were unvaccinated, you had a 29X times higher risk of dying from COVID than people who had the first series of vaccines AND two boosters.
If you had the first series of vaccines and only 1 booster you were 4X likely to die from COVID than those who had 2 boosters.
The profound methodological flaws are all CDC imposed. For example there is no good way to estimate who is vaccinated in the overall population. I even got 2 calls from the CDC asking if I was vaccinated because they don’t know
The data from the states is raw and unadjusted. CDC is adjusting them to calculate rates.
Again, I don’t believe them but if you want to believe I’m superhuman as I’m unvaccinated and never had even 1 symptom from COVID then that’s cool! Did you get vaccinated, catch COVID and have symptoms eh?
So in order for you to take the vaccine, it's got to be 100% prevention for you or nothing else will do?
I'm not criticizing if that's your choice, just trying to clarify. If you look at the numbers in the earlier study cited, 29% of those unvaccinated died over the fully vaccinated and fully boosted, 4% died who had the first vaccine series and one booster over those with 2 boosters. What is missing (and maybe it's there) is the percentage of those who have died with the initial series and two boosters. I'll bet that number is not ZERO but it's going to be lower than those in the categories less vaccinated.
Personally, I don't need a 100% guarantee I won't get seriously ill, but if the data shows that my chances of living are improved, that's important to me when making the decision. That all weighs against your own risks.
I took the vaccines. It's the 2+ boosters that I didn't take. When I'm being told two shots aren't enough and I have to endlessly get injection after injection every few months, I begin to have some suspicion. Never in my life did I need so many boosters in such a short period of time, especially when it's the same vaccine that is not even upgraded. Just doesn't make sense to me.
I think my immune system is fully capable of working on its own and strengthening itself naturally. It doesn't need so many injections to do its job.
I took the vaccines. It's the 2+ boosters that I didn't take. When I'm being told two shots aren't enough and I have to endlessly get injection after injection every few months, I begin to have some suspicion. Never in my life did I need so many boosters in such a short period of time, especially when it's the same vaccine that is not even upgraded. Just doesn't make sense to me.
I think my immune system is fully capable of working on its own and strengthening itself naturally. It doesn't need so many injections to do its job.
If you are not very aged or high risk you should be good as current variants are more benign. Some vaccine regimens do require multiple injections spaced out in time, so this is not a new thing with Covid. With Covid though we have to deal with its tendency to mutate, and that is why those aged and with high risks do better with more boosting.
I, personally, know a couple of people who got vaccinated and still got hospitalized from Covid. So count me in as one of those people who doesn't believe the vaccines prevent serious illness.
I know only one person who died with covid. Fully vaxxed.
So in order for you to take the vaccine, it's got to be 100% prevention for you or nothing else will do?
I'm not criticizing if that's your choice, just trying to clarify. If you look at the numbers in the earlier study cited, 29% of those unvaccinated died over the fully vaccinated and fully boosted, 4% died who had the first vaccine series and one booster over those with 2 boosters. What is missing (and maybe it's there) is the percentage of those who have died with the initial series and two boosters. I'll bet that number is not ZERO but it's going to be lower than those in the categories less vaccinated.
Personally, I don't need a 100% guarantee I won't get seriously ill, but if the data shows that my chances of living are improved, that's important to me when making the decision. That all weighs against your own risks.
This vaccine isn’t even remotely close to 100% effective at doing anything positive.
So in order for you to take the vaccine, it's got to be 100% prevention for you or nothing else will do?
I'm not criticizing if that's your choice, just trying to clarify. If you look at the numbers in the earlier study cited, 29% of those unvaccinated died over the fully vaccinated and fully boosted, 4% died who had the first vaccine series and one booster over those with 2 boosters. What is missing (and maybe it's there) is the percentage of those who have died with the initial series and two boosters. I'll bet that number is not ZERO but it's going to be lower than those in the categories less vaccinated.
Personally, I don't need a 100% guarantee I won't get seriously ill, but if the data shows that my chances of living are improved, that's important to me when making the decision. That all weighs against your own risks.
No. But my risk of dying of covid has to be much higher - the survival rate is around 99.7%. And probably much higher now because the virus has pretty much turned into the common cold.
Actually, scratch that. My risk of dying of covid was 0%. I had it, probably had Delta, and I'm still here.
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