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Old 07-31-2022, 06:17 PM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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I'm not thinking "I don't want to be around (insert ethnicity)". I'm thinking of this. I know Blacks are 13% of the population. I also know that some people move to certain places BECAUSE hardly any Black people live there. In my case, I wonder "will this place be accepting of me or will I be treated badly?". I've dealt with racism before, so I don't have the option not to think about that.
Did you read the rest of my post. It's not because I have a problem with anything inherent in their ethnicity. It's because of the same thing you are worried about. How I will be treated. I also don't have the option not to think about that.
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Old 07-31-2022, 06:31 PM
 
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How has diversity made America better?

I hear this all the time. But there is never a reason for why simply racial diversity makes America better.
If diversity is a strength why doesn’t Japan flood their country with Europeans, South Americans, Africans?

U.S. taxpayers spend $8 billion annually on diversity training. Japan is missing out on all this training and strength. Imagine the increase in strength if Israel imported half of the illegals the U.S. does along with a few million Muslins of all races.

Imagine the benefits of diversity if South Africa imported a few million Europeans, Asians, and plumbers.

Why don’t all countries celebrate this strength?
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Old 07-31-2022, 06:32 PM
 
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When I was a sailor we lived and worked together, we slept 16 to a room, no problem. When we went ashore on liberty there was no discussion, we self segregated. We went with those that we were most comfortable.with.

When I was in high school in NYC, it was not prudent to be the only white in a locker room where there were a large number of blacks.

Years later I encountered a number of Navajos who were content to remain on the reservation with other Navajos.
Well, all I can say is that "stick to your own kind" has not worked for me in my life. I just tried to go wherever I was accepted.
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Old 07-31-2022, 07:06 PM
 
Location: A flyover state
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This is an interesting thread with some well-thought-out replies.

I started to leave a tangent comment regarding "tolerance/acceptance" vs. "support/advocate" (whether based on race, political leaning, sexual orientation, social class, etc) but changed my mind... I don't want to derail this topic.
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Old 07-31-2022, 07:17 PM
 
Location: Any Beach/FL
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Maybe those claiming they want a diverse community aren't being entirely truthful. It sounds nice and socially acceptable until you have to deal with "those people" everyday.

Being a military brat, I grew up in a diverse environment - and prefer to live in a diverse environment. To me, it kind of keeps people in check when having to deal with different people.
Yes- military bases are the most diverse communities- I loved it. But I love SFl, DC bigger cities. I know it can get dicey with gangs etc but I think money separates us more than cultures.
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Old 07-31-2022, 07:19 PM
 
Location: Any Beach/FL
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If diversity is a strength why doesn’t Japan flood their country with Europeans, South Americans, Africans?

U.S. taxpayers spend $8 billion annually on diversity training. Japan is missing out on all this training and strength. Imagine the increase in strength if Israel imported half of the illegals the U.S. does along with a few million Muslins of all races.

Imagine the benefits of diversity if South Africa imported a few million Europeans, Asians, and plumbers.

Why don’t all countries celebrate this strength?
Asians are very traditional- people from those nations come here for new. They know what’s here is not their country’s culture.
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Old 07-31-2022, 07:25 PM
 
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Yeah they're not one in the same because a district can qualify as being 'diverse' without being ambiently accepting about it. The intention should be for people to treat everyone with compassion and respect. Of course I can understand why that seems difficult at times; the attitudes of people, maybe the disparities in culture which prove to be a greater hurdle than if one were in a more homogeneous community.
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Old 07-31-2022, 09:15 PM
 
Location: Austin
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These two concepts seem to be at odds. First, striving for a goal of a nation in which all communities have good representation of all identifiable minorities, such as Muslim, LGBTQ, mixed-race couples, etc.. But then, members of those same minorities are asking in a relocation forum, where can they settle in communities friendly to their particular persuasion.


How can it be both? (Please don't answer if all you want to do is cut-paste your usual mindless political-labeled bashing. There is no agenda here -- just wondering if anybody has any thoughtful ideas of how these two trends might play out.)
I am for representation based on merit, i.e. skills, ideas, experiences and contribution. I am for people assimilating or clustering with their own. The first is laudable, the second is natural. We have to push back on a Balkanized world view where the Tourette's-twitch usage of "diversity" as an all-encompassing good is taken for granted. There are obvious arenas in life where certain balances of identity attributes matter. Women's sports needs female coaches, elementary school should be taught by both male and female teachers, the killing units of the military should be male dominated. .. and then there are areas where it's ridiculous to even consider those attributes. Who needs a male or female or LGBTQ perspective on engineering? There's a best answer and lesser answers and the path to arriving at 'best' doesn't go through identity. Let's be smart and nuanced about these things and not twitch and squeak in unison like electrified rats whenever someone utters the hack phrase "diversity is our strength".
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Old 07-31-2022, 09:25 PM
 
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Being a minority, being Black American in particular, there are certain things I have to consider when living somewhere. For starters, I'm not going to move somewhere without a job lined up. Another matter is how I will be perceived by the locals. I have to think about this because how I'm treated could be a factor in me deciding to be part of that community. I don't want to go somewhere, and then find that the locals don't want me there. That is really something I have to consider. For me this isn't some "woke" concept. This is about stuff I've dealt with and making sure I know what I'm getting into.
As a white guy, and a grossly underrepresented minority, being that I’m an immigrant, I have the same thoughts and concerns. Shrug
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Old 08-01-2022, 05:51 AM
 
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Yes- military bases are the most diverse communities- I loved it.

but also, if you pulled that racial culture on base, you got shut down quickly
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