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Old 08-01-2022, 07:14 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Well yeah. Covid didn't work so the left is moving back to Climate Change.
Speaking of COVID, even when the world was shutting down for months at a time, it was still not enough to meet the carbon reduction goals for the Paris Accords. We would need three COVID era lockdowns this year, to meet the goals for carbon reduction.
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Old 08-01-2022, 07:24 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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USDA Plant Hardiness Zones 1970-2000 vs 1980-2010

https://www.climatecentral.org/clima...ing-north-2019
The 1970s saw sharp decreases in global temps. The '70s was back when the same extremists claimed another ice-age was coming.

These hardiness zones have never been set in stone. Even the gardens that raise and sell plants will tell you that these zone maps are fluid, arbitrary and unreliable. So trying to use these maps as if the are scientific data, is ridiculous.
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Old 08-02-2022, 07:16 AM
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Location: Dallas, TX
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The 1970s saw sharp decreases in global temps. The '70s was back when the same extremists claimed another ice-age was coming.

These hardiness zones have never been set in stone. Even the gardens that raise and sell plants will tell you that these zone maps are fluid, arbitrary and unreliable. So trying to use these maps as if the are scientific data, is ridiculous.
The data trend for the past 100 years says the earth is getting warmer. That's a much more extensive set of data to base a conclusion on than a mere few years in the 1970s.

Also, ice cores from Antarctica going back tens, if not hundreds, of millenia show a strong correlation between CO2 levels and average global temperature.
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Old 08-02-2022, 07:23 AM
 
Location: Cape Cod
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Well yeah. Covid didn't work so the left is moving back to Climate Change.

Covid worked perfectly for them. It showed them just how much the People are willing to take when FEAR is used to manipulate. Covid worked perfectly because they used it to install Biden.



Can we just say that the Democrats are a bunch of Fear mongering Alarmists? It seems that everything Trump tried to do was a "Constitutional Crisis". They have been going on for years with their Doom and Gloom predictions from Terrorism, both Foreign and Domestic, Covid, Racism, White Supremacy, The Ultra Maga, The sky is falling at every turn.



There is a lot of money to be made and spent on fighting Climate change. Money that is procured by our elected and then to have it quietly fade away and redirected into other pet projects and special interests.



We all Fear a warming planet but there is not much we can do about it but get ready and in the meantime the Left will raise piles of money to make us Feel like we are doing something.
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Old 08-02-2022, 07:40 AM
 
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Per capita CO2 emissions:

US: 15.52
China: 7.38
Per optical observance:






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Old 08-02-2022, 07:43 AM
 
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Suprised no one has mentioned the issue with the chart yet, it's pretty obvious.

This is separate from the issue at hand, just talking about the chart used in the video.

Last edited by Daryl_G; 08-02-2022 at 07:47 AM.. Reason: Clarifying the comment is strictly about the chart.
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Old 08-02-2022, 07:49 AM
 
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The data trend for the past 100 years says the earth is getting warmer. That's a much more extensive set of data to base a conclusion on than a mere few years in the 1970s.

Also, ice cores from Antarctica going back tens, if not hundreds, of millenia show a strong correlation between CO2 levels and average global temperature.
Completely 100% WRONG.

CO2 levels increase AFTER increases in TEMP, not the other way around.

It is like saying lung cancer causes smoking.
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Old 08-02-2022, 07:57 AM
 
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the data trend...LOL....for the past ~150 years.....says all of global warming has been 1 degree C

PUBLISHED JUNE 28, 2022

"The roughly 2-degree Fahrenheit (1 degrees Celsius) increase in global average surface temperature that has occurred since the pre-industrial era (1880-1900)"

no one can feel a 1 degree change in temperature.....everything else is weather

https://www.climate.gov/news-feature...al-temperature


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The data trend for the past 100 years says the earth is getting warmer. That's a much more extensive set of data to base a conclusion on than a mere few years in the 1970s.

Also, ice cores from Antarctica going back tens, if not hundreds, of millenia show a strong correlation between CO2 levels and average global temperature.
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Old 08-02-2022, 08:23 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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The data trend for the past 100 years says the earth is getting warmer. That's a much more extensive set of data to base a conclusion on than a mere few years in the 1970s.

Also, ice cores from Antarctica going back tens, if not hundreds, of millenia show a strong correlation between CO2 levels and average global temperature.
the data set for the last 10,000 years says the earth is warming...that is what happens in an interglacial period

and yes the ice cores do show Co2, and it shows it actually trails the warming
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Old 08-02-2022, 10:56 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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Per optical observance:





Ah, that's just terrible to see.

To be fair, we effectively export our pollution (through import manufacturing) to China.
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