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Old 08-02-2022, 09:04 AM
 
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Actually the fairtax is a great idea, and makes taxes a lot easier...and will bring more revenue into the government, therefore eliminating the deficit

if you look at the source data, you will see it is the fairest, and best possible solution to all the redtape we have now...funny thing is the liberals want to ADD a VAT ontop of the income tax, where as the fairtax, is a consumption tax IN PLACE of the income/corporate/estate/sin taxes



say yes to the fairtax


www.fairtax.org


I can't imagine why you support a new federal tax, a 23 percent tax being imposed on “all consumption of goods and services in the United States” , which also creates a new federal entitlement called the “Family Consumption Allowance”, which makes the vast majority of our nation population dependent upon our federal government for their monthly necessities of life, and also creates two new tax collecting agencies, and does not end Congress' power to lay and collect taxes calculated from profits, gains, salaries and other types of incomes.


Why do you support this massive expansion of Congress' taxing powers?

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Old 08-02-2022, 09:32 AM
 
Location: Sarasota County FL
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The DC swamp will never pass the Fair Tax because it eliminates pay-to-play, & other kinds of political corruption & control.

The DC Swamp uses the tax code to bilk big biz out of Billions, & uses it to control us little people. The tax code is the DC swamps #1 weapon, so no way are they going to just give it up willingly...not gonna happen w/o a complete overthrow of the DC Swamp, or by a Convention of States.
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Old 08-02-2022, 09:54 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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I can't imagine why you support a new federal tax, a 23 percent tax being imposed on “all consumption of goods and services in the United States” , which also creates a new federal entitlement called the “Family Consumption Allowance”, which makes the vast majority of our nation population dependent upon our federal government for their monthly necessities of life, and also creates two new tax collecting agencies, and does not end Congress' power to lay and collect taxes calculated from profits, gains, salaries and other types of incomes.


Why do you support this massive expansion of Congress' taxing powers?

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I support it, because it eliminates the income tax, the corporate tax, the sin taxes, the estate tax...yes its a new tax, but it replaces those others...unlike what the liberals poush which is a VAT on top of all the other taxes

and the fairtax is a consumption tax, on all NEW goods at the FINAL stage, unlike a VAT which is a tax on ALL GOODS at all stages

the fairtax, will boost the recycling/second hand market...as people will be willing to buy used stuff, and used stuff does NOT get taxed again, as it already was when it was new

the fairtax will also LOWER the prices on ALL GOODS as every good that you buy currently has about 30% BUUILT IN TAXES


the fairtax, also takes away the spin of the liberals, of "let's tax the rich, as they will be taxed quite high.... imagine the revenue to the government on that new Lexus that the rich want to buy

the fair tax gives EVERYONE HOUSEHOLDS) a prebate to cover the necessities ( to the poverty level ) therefore helping the poor especially
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Old 08-02-2022, 10:06 AM
 
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I support it, because it eliminates the income tax,
Where is the enforceable wording contained in H.R. 25 declaring the following?

The Sixteenth Amendment is hereby repealed, and Congress is henceforth forbidden to lay any tax or burden calculated from profits, gains, interest, salaries, wages, tips, inheritances or any other lawfully realized money.


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Old 08-02-2022, 10:26 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Where is the enforceable wording contained in H.R. 25 declaring the following?

The Sixteenth Amendment is hereby repealed, and Congress is henceforth forbidden to lay any tax or burden calculated from profits, gains, interest, salaries, wages, tips, inheritances or any other lawfully realized money.


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the fairtax DOES eliminate the 16th amendment

https://www.moneycrashers.com/fair-t...ned-pros-cons/
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The FairTax legislation would also repeal the 16th Amendment, which means the federal government would no longer have the right to levy income taxes. However, states and local governments would still collect revenue via income and sales taxes at their discretion.
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Old 08-02-2022, 10:30 AM
 
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the fairtax DOES eliminate the 16th amendment
Is that so?


Where is the enforceable wording contained in H.R. 25 declaring the following?

The Sixteenth Amendment is hereby repealed, and Congress is henceforth forbidden to lay any tax or burden calculated from profits, gains, interest, salaries, wages, tips, inheritances or any other lawfully realized money.

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Old 08-02-2022, 11:15 AM
 
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The right-wing party won't uphold it's pledge to the constitution but they are 100% committed to any pledge that gives tax breaks to the wealthy.
Why shouldn't the wealthy get a tax break? They have the highest level of education, create the most jobs, pay the highest tax rate, and get the least amount in benefits from government services. The highest income earners pay a federal tax rate of 37% while the lowest income earners pay only 10%. In addition, the top 1% of income earners pay about 40% of all federal income taxes. That puts the country in a bad position when so much of the federal government's tax revenue comes from such a small group of individuals. We need a tax system that is fairer for everyone and doesn't punish people just for being successful.
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Old 08-02-2022, 11:25 AM
 
Location: Pinetop-Lakeside, AZ
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I have long been in favor of a VAT type tax and getting rid of the income tax. But 23%??? And to include a .gov 'subsidy'??

Forget that.
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Old 08-02-2022, 12:23 PM
 
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I have no idea what your post has to do with the FairTax 2022 candidate pledge.
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This is merely an extension of the Grover Norquist GOP pledge that no Republican will EVER vote for a tax increase.
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Old 08-02-2022, 12:30 PM
 
Location: OH->FL->NJ
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the fairtax DOES eliminate the 16th amendment

https://www.moneycrashers.com/fair-t...ned-pros-cons/
Like it or not it would be fascinating to watch.

Kochotopia gilded age in Red states.

UC Berkeleytopia in Blue states.

Partly invisible elites running both.
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