Kansas Voters Reject Anti-Abortion Constitutional Amendment (politicians, state, support, murder)

[StillwaterTownie]

Originally Posted by RowingFiend

It’s tragic that so many people are so eager to kill unborn children. However the decision belongs to the people of the states, not 9 unelected justices.

It’s a setback for those of us who aren’t interested in killing babies, but the fight is far from over.

I don't see how the abortion issue is directly any of your prohibitive business, unless it's your baby you want to keep but the woman wants to abort it.

Two Oklahoma Republicans in the runoff for U. S. Senator want abortion banned at the national level, such as with a constitutional amendment, if that makes you feel better. But with Red State Kansas voters wanting to keep abortion rights in their state constitution to the tune of around 60%, I don't think it will ever fly.

[berdee]

Originally Posted by Vebretti

Manufacturing the issue that already wasn’t there because your trying to insert your religious fundamentalism on other people is the problem.

Fundies gotta go back to the drawing boards with this one. Gerrymandering didn’t work this time.

One doesn't have to be religious to feel it's repugnant when someone kills their own child for convenience.

[BobNJ1960]

Originally Posted by workingclasshero

good for them..they are doing it the correct way... at the state level, by the people

Agreed, no matter the vote in any one state, I am delighted each of the 50 can deal with as it always should have been-locally.

[FordBronco1967]

Originally Posted by StillwaterTownie

I don't see how the abortion issue is directly any of your prohibitive business.

Using your logic, we should not bring justice to murder victims by punishing murderers, as that is not our “business” because it does not directly affect you or I…

[berdee]

Originally Posted by FordBronco1967

Using your logic, we should not bring justice to murder victims by punishing murderers, as that is not our “business” because it does not directly affect you or I…

Yep...or any other crime that doesn't personally involve us. Seems they want to abolish more than just the cops.

[StillwaterTownie]

Originally Posted by FordBronco1967

Using your logic, we should not bring justice to murder victims by punishing murderers, as that is not our “business” because it does not directly affect you or I…

Seriously, you're so all out pitifully wrong, because it is a matter of FACT that Red State voters in Mississippi and other states have voted down laws that would give full human rights to people beginning from the very day of their conception in the womb. If you want to make abortion your business anyway, do you regularly go to abortion clinics to yell at women not to enter?

[ssmaster]

Originally Posted by FordBronco1967

You linked an article that was written and published during my first week of kindergarten … Science has evolved since then, and thus the timeline of fetal pain has shrunk to around fifteen weeks.



I find it pertinent to include this, as well:

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/ful...43639211059245



I found it easier to add your post to my reply to another poster than to retype the same thing in another post.

Are you freaking kidding me?

This was published in the Linacre Quarterly : the official journal of the Catholic Medical Association and primarily focuses on the relationship between medicine and spirituality, and in particular on medical ethics.

It’s focus is health policy and philosophy.

It has a LOW IMPACT FACTOR.

For this type of research you want to go with HIGH IMPACT scientific journals, Science,BMJ,NEJM, Nature, JAMA,Cell

If you don’t know what I am talking about “journal high impact factor”

[MMS02760]

Good for Kansans.

What excuse will the hard right that is intent on banning all abortion come up with to explain this away? Is Kansas now suddenly too LIBERAL?

[FordBronco1967]

Originally Posted by ssmaster

Are you freaking kidding me?

This was published in the Linacre Quarterly : the official journal of the Catholic Medical Association and primarily focuses on the relationship between medicine and spirituality, and in particular on medical ethics.

It’s focus is health policy and philosophy.

It has a LOW IMPACT FACTOR.

For this type of research you want to go with HIGH IMPACT scientific journals, Science,BMJ,NEJM, Nature, JAMA,Cell

If you don’t know what I am talking about “journal high impact factor”

They did cite the specific studies that showed these results, if you wish to dig deeper into it. Or, you can gripe about the source, of which was in the first page of my quick internet search…

[StillwaterTownie]

Originally Posted by natalie469

How can anyone possibly know what pain a fetus may or may not feel.

I suppose people who want abortion banned would tell you that simple scientific experiments would be done by poking a fetus with a needle at every week of development until it recoils in response.