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Old 08-03-2022, 10:10 AM
 
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Pelosi went to Taiwan to provoke the Chinese, exactly like when Kamala went to Europe to goad the Russians into invading Ukraine with her rhetoric.

That’s the only explanation that makes sense. Because what is the benefit to the US of Pelosi being in Taiwan? There is no benefit.


What is the benefit to the US when Harris says Ukraine ought to join NATO? There is no benefit.

Unless the actual goal is to get both China and Russia bogged down in separate wars to weaken them?

Or could it be worse than even that? Letting Russia control Ukraine’s grain and agriculture and letting China control Taiwan’s chip manufacturing? Maybe the Democrats are trying to destroy our country?
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Old 08-03-2022, 10:11 AM
 
Location: Corona del Mar, CA - Coronado, CA
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The next war will be spaced based. I hope the U.S. military and political leadership recognize this. Satellites will be crucial. I hope the U.S. has back-up satellites ready to launch (and the means to launch them), hidden satellites and plans on how to take out the Chinese satellites.

The surface Navy remains important, but it is not our main line of defense or offense.
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Old 08-03-2022, 10:14 AM
 
Location: Corona del Mar, CA - Coronado, CA
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without becoming involved in yet another war over an island off the Chinese coast, and nearly 7,000 miles from the US. The aim of US foreign policy should be to try and reduce tensions....
Neville Chamberlain fan I presume.

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Pelosi went to Taiwan to provoke the Chinese...
Pelosi went to Taiwan on the day of her husband's arraignment on DUI charges.....
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Old 08-03-2022, 10:48 AM
 
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... fighting the last war with last war tactics and equipment. As far as the US is concerned, Ukraine is fighting a proxy war with Russia, a possible adversary. What have we learned? The Ukrainians destroyed multi-million dollar tanks with off-the-shelf drones, better on-the-ground intelligence, and improvised tactics.

In a war of attrition with the CCP, the US (population wise) would be out numbered 4.25 to one.

Of course, if war escalates into a nuclear conflict, game over.
In Ukraine, the Russians are having problems because THEY have last wars tactics and equipment.

Not to mention internal corruption etc.

The Ukranians are mostly destroying those tanks with current generation fire and forget weapons like the Javelin and also using the MLRS artillery system and other up to data western weaponry.
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Old 08-03-2022, 10:56 AM
 
Location: A Nation Possessed
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Our military strategy as of late is getting our asses handed to us and donating billions of dollars of weaponry to enemies. And kicking former allies from the landing gear as we fly away. And knowing our new pronouns. That strategy will not be obsolete as long as leftists are in control of the nation and military.
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Old 08-03-2022, 11:38 AM
 
Location: Spain
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Our military strategy as of late is getting our asses handed to us and donating billions of dollars of weaponry to enemies. And kicking former allies from the landing gear as we fly away. And knowing our new pronouns. That strategy will not be obsolete as long as leftists are in control of the nation and military.
Just type in "I let politics dictate my worldviews" and be done with it man.
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Old 08-03-2022, 11:41 AM
 
Location: West Virginia
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No. There have been supersonic antiship missiles for decades, and USN has had an ever evolving strategy to counter them since they were a thing.

They could try to hit them with SM-6s at extreme ranges since detected by E-2s, then by SM-2s, then by ESSM, then by RAM and soft countermeasures. All these defensive measures are developed and tested to bring down missiles that fly at supersonic speeds. The drone they currently use to test defensive measures is the Coyote:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GQM-163_Coyote
Without chips would any if that be possible? If China invaded Taiwan and cuts the chips off would it bring us to our knees? If so how quickly? Notice I am not making assertions just asking questions because I find it interesting.

My guess is if China invades Taiwan they wouldn’t be challenged directly by the USA because the price is too high. Maybe we would send little stipends of drones after getting permission like we do with Ukraine and Putin.
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Old 08-03-2022, 11:52 AM
 
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We saw how badly the Russians performed against Ukraine, a third rate power not even as powerfull as Iraq circa early 2000s.
It seems that Russians perform extremely well against the NATO armies that are 20 times more powerful and have the most advanced weapons.
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Old 08-03-2022, 11:59 AM
 
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The military strategy working or not all depends on how tightly the average soldiers hands are tied by the Elected. When you think about it America hasn't had a major win since WW2 but that was all out war that was ended by a Nuke.



Korea, Vietnam and 20+years in the Middle East that ended in an embarrassment. Yes we need a new strategy. Heading out on a patrol and waiting to be shot at and then having to ask permission to shoot back is stupid.

Your mistake is thinking that a win is measured by a military win by submission, and that that is their objective.
As far as the MICC is concerned, they have won all the wars since WW2.


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In an all out war with China there would be heavy casualties on both sides and Trillions of dollars of destruction. The only thing that might dissuade China from an actual invasion of the US is something that the Dems have been trying to rip up for decades and that is the Second Amendment. Of course the Dems will laugh at the idea of what they call NRA supporting, America Loving, White Supremacist, Ultra MAGA Militia Neanderthal types they refer to as Domestic Terrorists and I call Patriots holding back a Super power like China but I would remind them that the People of Ukraine have been doing well against Russia. The only issue being whether half the population of young men would even want to fight for their country?
China has no aspirations of invading the US. Quite the contrary if you are to look at how we have surrounded China with military installments.
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Old 08-03-2022, 12:03 PM
 
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We saw how badly the Russians performed against Ukraine, a third rate power not even as powerfull as Iraq circa early 2000s. The Chinese use a lot of Russian designed military equipment, never proven in actual combat, as the Russian have. How well will the non-combat proven Chinese equipment do

Russia is not losing the war. Stop listening to MSM. They just want to justify the continuation of the war to sell weapons to Ukraine.
The public would be outraged if they found out the truth, that the war was unwinnable from the onset. That we would knowingly send $60B to a losing cause.
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