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Old 08-07-2022, 06:37 AM
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Location: Dallas, TX
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The benefits of throwing the elite/rich a bone in the hopes that that will cause a domino effect of the less fortunate benefitting hasn't exactly worked. The Rich continue to hoard and the broke continue to stay broke. If this idea works than why does the income gap continue to widened?
That's been a conservative political meme since at least the late 70s -- 45 years!

Hell, it took just a little bit less than that long for Eastern Europe to go from Communist-controlled to free (or at least partially free).
AKA "that long to figure out that Marxian style (actual, not McCarthyist/MAGA) socialism doesn't work".

Seems like after all this time, the 'trickle-down capitalist' crowd is every bit of ideologues as were the cardboard-cutout bureaucrats in Warsaw, East Berlin, and Prague were
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Old 08-07-2022, 06:41 AM
 
Location: A Beautiful State (not NJ)
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I have lived around lower middle-class and below all my life.

Most of these people stay in their poor positions in life due to bad choices they make.....little to nothing to do with the evil, hoarding rich or lack of true trickle-down economics.
agreed. i have spent much time in my professional life in low income dwellings. these people regardless of race all have similar things in common. they usually live in dilapidated filthy housing, have the latest impulse purchases, always have multiple pets/tattoos/dumb car accessories/some sort of addiction food, alcohol or drugs. if they only put their energy towards getting their stuff together they would probably have a better standard of living.
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Old 08-07-2022, 06:42 AM
 
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The benefits of throwing the elite/rich a bone in the hopes that that will cause a domino effect of the less fortunate benefitting hasn't exactly worked. The Rich continue to hoard and the broke continue to stay broke. If this idea works than why does the income gap continue to widened?
I don't understand why a certain part of the population feels that they are entitled to other people's money, because they aren't smart.enough to make their life financially better.
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Old 08-07-2022, 06:44 AM
 
Location: Jacksonville, FL
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The benefits of throwing the elite/rich a bone in the hopes that that will cause a domino effect of the less fortunate benefitting hasn't exactly worked. The Rich continue to hoard and the broke continue to stay broke. If this idea works than why does the income gap continue to widened?
It works a lot better than whatever you want to call the economic policy of the Democrats currently in office.
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Old 08-07-2022, 06:46 AM
 
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I agree but also punishing the rich bc they are rich doesn’t help matters, either. Everyone should strive to improve their lot in life but Democrats want to disincentivize it with their Robin Hood “you owe me” mentality.
Being required to pay “fair share” isn’t punishing.
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Old 08-07-2022, 06:46 AM
 
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The benefits of throwing the elite/rich a bone in the hopes that that will cause a domino effect of the less fortunate benefitting hasn't exactly worked. The Rich continue to hoard and the broke continue to stay broke. If this idea works than why does the income gap continue to widened?
Less whining + more working = A better life for you
There is no evidence that trickle down doesn't work. Is it 100% perfect? Nope. Name a system that is.
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Old 08-07-2022, 06:50 AM
 
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On the other hand the Democrats keep throwing benefits, money, college educations, healthcare, etc. on our less fortunate and all it does is hold the poverty line and get votes. They have no desire to help Americans have a better life, rather just a dependency on them.
What college education, and etc. are you referring to? What aggrieved you here?
The healthcare is continuing Obama subsidies (which many of you use) and allowing Medicare to negotiate drug prices. Something Trump always said he’d do…but didn’t.
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Old 08-07-2022, 06:53 AM
 
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Being required to pay “fair share” isn’t punishing.
I agree. Lower income folks need to start paying their fair share (or any share at all, for that matter). The rich pay far, far more than their fair share.

Perhaps, basing opinions of facts, not liberal talking points, might help make topics like this more understandable to Leftists and Progs. The fact is that upper income people pay much, much more in taxes than most people.
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Old 08-07-2022, 06:56 AM
 
Location: Annandale, VA
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Ah, the rising ire of the envy and greed crowd.

You do know that the socialist government is behind your penury - not the "elite" rich.
Aggregate taxes (local, state, and federal) take 44% of the GDP.
The government (federal) owns 28% of all land in the USA - about 2 acres per capita.
And yet they spend more, tax more, increase the debt ceiling, and it's whose fault that the debauched money buys less and less?
The Rich?
Yeah, right [/sarcasm]

To make matters worse, there are less than 2 taxpayers per recipient, and the recipient population is growing faster than the taxpayers, thanks to declining birthrate (an artifact of "glorious" socialism - and abortions killing off 60+ million potential taxpayers).
When that drops to less than 1 taxpayer per recipient, there's going to be some REAL trouble.

So as long as the recipients can outvote the donors, we'll have even worse expectations.
The population should not be enticed to reproduce in order to feed government with more taxes. There are more than enough taxes being collected. The government needs to be drastically cut back to its original enumerated powers stated in the Constitution.
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Old 08-07-2022, 07:03 AM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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I never knew, until now, that JFK was a trickle down Republican:

https://time.com/4511870/john-f-kenn...an-tax-policy/

https://www.npr.org/2013/11/12/24477...ower-tax-rates

https://www.aei.org/carpe-diem/lets-...side-tax-cuts/

Or, as he said, "A rising tide lifts all boats".
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