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Old 08-09-2022, 02:14 PM
 
Location: Springfield, Ohio
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It’s pretty simple to understand. The investigators had to prove to a federal judge there were evidence and facts showing a crime was committed. That is the only way to get a search warrant.

The only way Trump gets out of this is if it ends/dies right here. If he’s indicted then it’s game over and he’s disqualified from holding public office again. All of you think he’s innocent. What are you worried about? If he’s innocent as he claims it ends with the search. If not he won’t run again.

I think one of two things happen. And neither of them involve running for president.

1. He holds the line, tweets and claims innocence. He’s charged with a federal crime, indicted and barred from running.

2. They work out a deal with the FBI to avoid jail time, which means part of the deal he will never run or hold office again.

Trump will never hold elected office again. I think #2 is what exactly will happen. Part of the deal will be he won’t run for elected office again or campaign for officials
Fair take. It will be interesting if any others, i.e. Guiliani, can get the same treatment, or are forced to fall on their swords for him again.

 
Old 08-09-2022, 02:15 PM
 
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Also, right at the top of the list is why would DeSantis tank his Presidential hopes for a guy that lost the popular vote in every election he's been in and (other than his 30% die hards) most Americans would just rather see go away entirely? Not exactly the recipe for a win in 2026.
First, he knows that’s a load of manure, and just kool aide meant for the drooling leftists to guzzle … not thinking people …

In legitimate polling of Republicans, Trump held an overwhelming majority of support, with DeSantis coming in a very distant 2nd place …

And guess what … every time the deep state criminals pull another one of these obvious political stunts, Trump’s support goes up LOL.

You’d think these idiots would have already figured that out by now, and formed a different strategy. But they don’t. It’s the same play, over and over. It’s Russia, Russia, Russia .. that didn’t work ..then we had Ukraine, Ukraine, Ukraine, and that didn’t work … impeach, impeach, impeach, and that didn’t work … then tax returns, tax returns, tax returns, and that didn’t work. Now it is the presidential documents that the president isn’t supposed to have?

Oh my, what a lawless criminal President Trump is … the President actually got caught with Presidential Documents ooooohhh.

What’s the next high crime the DOJ is about to bust wide open … catching an ice cream man with ice cream he shouldn’t have?
 
Old 08-09-2022, 02:16 PM
 
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Fair take. It will be interesting if any others, i.e. Guiliani, can get the same treatment, or are forced to fall on their swords for him again.
Fair take my ass, it’s complete nonsense.
 
Old 08-09-2022, 02:19 PM
 
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Trump is a one term president who lost the popular vote twice led the republicans to lose the house, senate and then presidency. Regardless of how the
GOP base feels about trump most voters see him as dishonest, craven and unfit to be president. His supporters are thought to be under educated conspiracy theorists and he has driv n suburban women out of the Republican Party
 
Old 08-09-2022, 02:22 PM
 
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Another possibility is that they used the "classified documents" as just an excuse to raid his private property. We all know how many times there's "discovery" as part of serious trials. The democraps are hoping to find stuff that is unrelated and wasn't the actual reason given to justify the raid.

I even personally know a few individuals who were raided for simple offenses but served serious time for items that were seized during the raid and introduced into the trial as discovery.

The democraps are banking on a lot of things. Finding actual items they are looking for to justify the raid, but most importantly, items that they weren't looking for but can use against him for the upcoming 2024 election.
I am going to give you another POV from the democrats perspective. This whole thing could cause Trump to be re elected. Talk about being hit in the face with a pie.

The DOJ had to have an airtight case to even ask for a warrant. Trump could challenge them in court.

The DoJ had to provide a list of what they were looking for. Trump had that list, too. He could have just given it to them. But they knew he would raise a stink and use it for fundraising. Anybody with a brain knew it could start a civil war.

They were in a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation.

Some of us still believe in the rule of law.
 
Old 08-09-2022, 02:22 PM
 
Location: In a George Strait Song
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They are going for the head of the snake. And in my opinion it would be shocking if they just did this. I believe they have a slam dunk case and it’s game over for Trump.

The court just ruled 3-0 in favor of the house obtaining trumps tax records and making them public.

Things are about to get really ugly.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/09/polit...ion/index.html
If his taxes were legal and accepted by the IRS, what’s the big deal? If the existing laws make it so he paid $0 in taxes or even got a refund, good for him.

The government squanders the peoples’ money and can’t stick to a budget.

Acting like paying a lot in taxes is some kind of virtue is silly.
 
Old 08-09-2022, 02:24 PM
 
Location: Downtown Cranberry Twp.
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Originally Posted by Independentthinking83 View Post
It’s pretty simple to understand. The investigators had to prove to a federal judge there were evidence and facts showing a crime was committed. That is the only way to get a search warrant.

The only way Trump gets out of this is if it ends/dies right here. If he’s indicted then it’s game over and he’s disqualified from holding public office again. All of you think he’s innocent. What are you worried about? If he’s innocent as he claims it ends with the search. If not he won’t run again.

I think one of two things happen. And neither of them involve running for president.

1. He holds the line, tweets and claims innocence. He’s charged with a federal crime, indicted and barred from running.

2. They work out a deal with the FBI to avoid jail time, which means part of the deal he will never run or hold office again.

Trump will never hold elected office again. I think #2 is what exactly will happen. Part of the deal will be he won’t run for elected office again or campaign for officials
Lol. It’s an investigation. There’s no proof to a crime, but please do tell what crime because Trump has committed?

Since when is someone unable to run for political office if they’re indicted. Indictment doesn’t mean guilty.

Because Trump hasn’t even said he’s running again, but the obsession to try to keep him from running again is priceless. They’re so scared of him they’ll do anything they can to try to get him.

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What makes it complete nonsense? You do realize the FbI head is a trump appointee. Also the judges that just ruled against trump keeping his tax returns locked up were appointed by him.

Let me make this clear. There is a tired majority that wants their guy gone. The FBI was able to prove a crime was committed in order to obtain a search warrant. It’s just about over for Trump. Repent the end is near
Quite the continued assumptions. You’re simply hoping the end as you’ve obsessed so long to get him.
 
Old 08-09-2022, 02:26 PM
 
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1500+ posts...mostly leaning Right...wow!
LOL, this is C-D. Of course it's "mostly leaning right." When hasn't it?
 
Old 08-09-2022, 02:29 PM
 
Location: Downtown Cranberry Twp.
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LOL, this is C-D. Of course it's "mostly leaning right." When hasn't it?
Right leaning folks just don’t get their feelings hurt at the drop of a hat and cry over mean tweets so it probably seems like there’s more.
 
Old 08-09-2022, 02:29 PM
 
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So you are still ignoring the Presidential Records Act. It has been posted numerous times in this thread, or you can Google it.

Basically, all Presidential documents belong to the government, and not the President or ex-president. The National Archives is the custodian of the docs. Trump doesn't get to keep presidential documents at his house.
And one more time in case they missed it the first, 2nd and 3rd time, the National Archives controls the presidential papers in the presidential libraries.
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