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Somebody from Trump’s inner circle is cooperating with authorities. No question
True. Per WaPo reporting, investigators long suspected Trump aides were lying/holding back documents. Apparently, the informant triggered the raid.
Turley on Fox a few minutes ago said Newsweek reported an inside informant was involved.
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The raid on Mar-a-Lago was based largely on information from an FBI confidential human source, one who was able to identify what classified documents former President Trump was still hiding and even the location of those documents, two senior government officials told Newsweek.
The officials, who have direct knowledge of the FBI's deliberations and were granted anonymity in order to discuss sensitive matters, said the raid of Donald Trump's Florida residence was deliberately timed to occur when the former president was away.
FBI decision-makers in Washington and Miami thought that denying the former president a photo opportunity or a platform from which to grandstand (or to attempt to thwart the raid) would lower the profile of the event, says one of the sources, a senior Justice Department official who is a 30-year veteran of the FBI.
Ball is in your court, Donald. You can prove your innocence!
They'd already given him an inventory of what they'd taken? When did they do that?
You fail to even understand the basic fact that it's not up to Trump to "prove his innocence". It's "innocent until proven guilty", not guilty until proven innocent.
Re: the bolded ...
True as far as the courts are concerned.
But what Trump is doing here is playing the victim for public consumption. It is misleading.
He isn't doing this for any judge, he is appealing to the court of public opinion, for obvious reasons. Thus, if he was really wronged, he should be able to demonstrate that by showing the warrant. What was the "excuse" the FBI gave for entering the hotel and how does that differ, if at all, from what he actually did or did not do?
He has no intention of showing you that warrant, and he knows that you don't want us to see it.
The is a polemical game, not a serious discussion about police abuse or government overreach or political persecution. It is a game he is playing, and you people are playing along.
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That's not quite correct. They went back in June and found stuff still there in the basement. Five days later they called Mar-a-Lago and asked them to secure the documents. Their next visit was the raid.
Did they? The article I'd previously linked said nothing about them finding anything in June, and I hadn't seen that mentioned in any other article either. Please post a link showing that they had "found stuff".
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Someone at Mar-a-Lago put a padlock on the door to the room the boxes were stored in.
Yeah, so?
The article that I'd previously linked had stated that the feds had told Trump that the storage area was not secure, so Trump followed their advice and had the lock installed. Goodness, you people will grasp at any straw.
Somebody from Trump’s inner circle is cooperating with authorities. No question
I keep wondering if Mark Meadows has flipped since he got caught witness tampering by contacting Cassidy Hutchinson. The FBI also seized Scott Perry's phone yesterday with a warrant.
Sounds like trouble brewing in Trumpworld somewhere.
They'd already given him an inventory of what they'd taken? When did they do that?
You fail to even understand the basic fact that it's not up to Trump to "prove his innocence". It's "innocent until proven guilty", not guilty until proven innocent.
If the DoJ was going to perform a raid on any US President, it would need to be conducted in an open and transparent manner. They would need to go far and above any normal procedural requirements. They would need to perfectly document their actions in such a way that it shines a bright light on what they were doing.
The raid should have been performed in such a precise manner that there would be absolutely no doubt in anyone's mind that it was legit. It would need to use reliable and trusted video and human documentation, so that even the most strident Biden/Garland critic would not be able to claim the raid was deceptive, corrupt or political in nature. This way if the FBI did uncover any incriminating evidence no one would be able to claim they planted that evidence.
They should have invited Trump's lawyers, and allowed them their own video recording devices, so there was no doubt that any evidence collected was legit.
but, the FBI did this all under a dark cloud and there is no way critic will accept that the corrupt, politicized FBI did not plant evidence, should they try to claim any was found.
Like I said in an earlier post, the FBI have not attempted to be open and transparent, they could claim they found Jimmy Hoffa's remains in Trump's residence, and their is no way to prove otherwise.
Agreed. Trump is not the president, regardless of what the thinks. He is a private citizen with no special privileges under the law.
I keep wondering if Mark Meadows has flipped since he got caught witness tampering by contacting Cassidy Hutchinson. The FBI also seized Scott Perry's phone yesterday with a warrant.
Sounds like trouble brewing in Trumpworld somewhere.
I doubt it. I bet its a simple explanation.
There are no records or files in the Oval Office so someone has to check them out in order to get them to the President, just like you do a Library book or evdience located in a Police lockup. And there is a chain of custody on those documents checked out.
When Trump requested them it would show they were delivered toTrump and it would show they were never returned. The Gopher that went delivered the records is not going to fall on that sword so that person would point directly at Trump for not returning those documents that were checked out.
In essence, everyone that could check the log would know what was missing and where they went. Its not like some special detective work was needed.
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You first. Prove he did return it all. I can't prove he failed to do so, you can't prove he did so.
Yeah okay I get it, you cannot prove your point so you try to swing it to me to prove you wrong. I'm not into that kind of game playing.
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Fortunately, there is now evidence in the hands of the FBI that might shed light on the situation-unless it was for a different, more serious crime. Time will tell.
Yeah, they probably found things that they can twist and use against him over the next couple of years, to harm his or others campaigning. it's what they do yanno.
Or maybe they will find something that they had planted? Which is likely since they wanted to gather things in secret.
A load of nonsense. But I would expect nothing other from this clown at MSNBC. He’s actually worse than the hacks at CNN, and that’s a hard contest to win.
THE OBSCURE LAW … that says all you need to know about the alleged crime ….
"It was all a liberal conspiracy"
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