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Old 08-11-2022, 03:43 PM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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Originally Posted by Hesychios View Post
So that is to say, if Trump objects it will not be unsealed?
Nah, that just means the unsealing will be tied up in a legal tug of war for a while. We could see the indictments fall before the unsealing is settled.

 
Old 08-11-2022, 03:43 PM
 
Location: Retired in VT; previously MD & NJ
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Let’s cut to the chase. This is fuel for the Trump supporters. The Dems have shot themselves in the foot with this one.
Don't think so. This shows Donald is a thief. By Friday afternoon we will all see a list of the things he stole.
 
Old 08-11-2022, 03:45 PM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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Originally Posted by GuyNTexas View Post
Great, another one who knows nothing other than lies MSNBC tells.

Do you have anything more to add?

Due to multiple organizations filing to unseal the warrant, Judge Reinhart further ordered that, “To avoid the need for individualized orders on any future motion(s) to unseal, it is ORDERED that the Government shall file an omnibus response to all motions to unseal on or before 5:00 p.m. Eastern time on August 15, 2022.”

https://www.judicialwatch.org/judge-...earch-warrant/

And furthermore, the no,no,no was in response to the clear nonsense BS … the up=down crap that it was the DOJ asking the court to unseal the warrant, when it was the court that ordered the DOJ to do it.

I understand how challenging this is for many of you …. but they are messing with your mind, and gaslighting you. The DOJ is now trying to create the appearance that they were not the one’s keeping the warrant sealed, and asked for the court to release it, AFTER THE COURT ORDERED THEM TO RELEASE IT.

The order to “respond” is an order to release, or give a good reason why it should be kept sealed.

GOD ALMIGHTY!!!!
The blue highlight is the correct part of your sentence.
 
Old 08-11-2022, 03:46 PM
 
Location: Retired in VT; previously MD & NJ
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NARA keeps records on the status of all documents in its care, and updates them quickly when classifications change. For Trump to get a document, he had to check it out kind of like a library. A record was made of who had it and when they got it. That's how they knew what was missing in the first place.

After NARA got through inventorying and checking all the documents back in from the boxes that were picked up in June, they immediately knew what was still in Florida. That is when the warrant process was begun.

The fact that Trump didn't return all of the documents when asked looks like he had other plans for some of them.


So many people don't understand that the government runs on processes and procedures. That was a good summary you provided.
 
Old 08-11-2022, 03:48 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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I read the Yale Law article and saw that it doesn't settle anything. The final graf says as much, there is more litigating to be done.
So nothing changes until after some future litigation, which has not yet happened. You're admitting that at this point:

1) Under the PRA, POTUS has discretion to manage Presidential records as he sees fit.
2) The PRA has no enforcement mechanism. The FBI has no legal authority to enforce it.
 
Old 08-11-2022, 03:49 PM
 
Location: Surprise, AZ
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Because they had to document every dam thing they looked at in office, living quarters and storage room. Probably had to look through a.bunch of boxes until they found the ones they needed.
So if there was an informant who was aware of said item(s), wouldn't you think that they would have a good idea from the informant of where to look for said item(s) that wouldn't take 9 hours of searching through offices, Melania's closet, storage rooms, etc.?
 
Old 08-11-2022, 03:49 PM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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That's not in the warrant.

That's the affidavit.
There is an attachment with a list of statutes covered by the warrant that goes along with it. The affidavit spells out how each of those statutes was believed to have been violated.
 
Old 08-11-2022, 03:49 PM
 
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Originally Posted by cuebald View Post
For 18 months and after two requests to give it back.

Some people are contrary no matter how nice you are to them. Sometimes you have to just slap the living **** out of them to get their attention.
This is so true. We all know or have known people that will yes you to death but never come through.

Donald Trump has no one to blame except himself for this situation.

What his reasons are if any for letting it get to this point are now the question in my mind. Could just be his collection of assorted personal failings or he could be obstructing justice.
 
Old 08-11-2022, 03:49 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Trump stole documents from the White House that do not belong to him and refused to give them back to the National Archives. So the FBI got a warrant to retrieve those documents from Trump's home. Simple to understand.
If that's what the FBI/DOJ think, they're going to get quite the slap down.
 
Old 08-11-2022, 03:51 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Presidential Records Act makes it perfectly clear that the documents belong to the government and not to the President. Trump was asked to return them via subpoenas. He refused. So FBI got a warrant and went to retrieve the documents.
The FBI has no legal authority to do so. The PRA has no enforcement mechanism.
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