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Old 08-16-2022, 07:06 PM
 
Location: Retired in VT; previously MD & NJ
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Originally Posted by GreenBouy View Post
That certainly not true.

A document could be declassified and their could still be copies marked with classification markings that were never properly amended.
How many times does it have to be repeated... if a document has one of the classified markings/labels/stamps, it must be considered classified. Each document and each page of a document must be marked. If declassified, every copy must also be declassified, and re-marked.

Get it now?

 
Old 08-16-2022, 07:07 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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Originally Posted by loves2read View Post
Illogical thinking

Consider John Bolton, a man I don’t really admire, but must admit is knowledgeable about how foreign policy security works—and knows when something goes wrong…
https://youtu.be/ksPhEn_zE6o

Basically called Trump’s explanation of declassification a lie—
And Bolton should know
He worked hand and glove with Trump, knew him for the coward and bully Trump is, and couldn’t stomach how Trump was destroying American credibility
And Bolton was LOVED by Trump and the hard right GOP up until he couldn’t lie to cover Trump’s stupidity any more
What did I say that is illogical?
 
Old 08-16-2022, 07:09 PM
 
Location: Texas
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How many times does it have to be repeated... if a document has one of the classified markings/labels/stamps, it must be considered classified. Each document and each page of a document must be marked. If declassified, every copy must also be declassified, and re-marked.

Get it now?
I served in the military for 27 years, I certainly get it.

Treating a marked document as classified is a federal government procedure for protection of classified material, it’s not a law.
 
Old 08-16-2022, 07:13 PM
 
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Originally Posted by GreenBouy View Post
That certainly not true.

A document could be declassified and their could still be copies marked with classification markings that were never properly amended.
Part of the declassification process is to find documents marked classified, and change it. Theres a process so that we avoid EXACTLY the sort of nonsense Trump is trying to convince people of.
 
Old 08-16-2022, 07:15 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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Originally Posted by GreenBouy View Post
That certainly not true.

A document could be declassified and their could still be copies marked with classification markings that were never properly amended.
In your desperation to defend your orange hero, you Trumpers are resorting to trying to claim that a document with a Confidential, Secret or Top Secret stamp on it as, "Oh, it's not really Confidential, Secret or Top Secret." It's just more right-wing reality denying. You don't want something to be true, so you make up all sorts of bizarre arguments to convince yourself that it isn't true.

Maybe just because the speed limit sign on the road says, "Speed Limit: 35MPH", maybe that means the speed limit really isn't 35MPH.

Maybe just because there is a "DO NOT ENTER" sign on a door, that really means it's OK to enter.
 
Old 08-16-2022, 07:17 PM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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In other words, no proof to another claim as you said they were classified documents.

Try to keep up. The warrant and the inventory list of items seized described them as classified documents. Since he lost his security clearance in March, 2021, he couldn't legally handle them even if he had not stolen them when he left the White House.

See also post #6531.
 
Old 08-16-2022, 07:17 PM
 
Location: Retired in VT; previously MD & NJ
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Originally Posted by GreenBouy View Post
I served in the military for 27 years, I certainly get it.

Treating a marked document as classified is a federal government procedure for protection of classified material, it’s not a law.
So if you know the rules and the process, why are you asking silly questions?

I would bet you never took a Top Secret document home for bedtime reading. Why not? What kind of trouble would you be in if you had done that?
 
Old 08-16-2022, 07:18 PM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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That’s not what it says, it says documents marked with classification markings
Meaning...?
 
Old 08-16-2022, 07:21 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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Originally Posted by GreenBouy View Post
I served in the military for 27 years, I certainly get it.

Treating a marked document as classified is a federal government procedure for protection of classified material, it’s not a law.
The procedure for classifying something as "Confidential," "Secret" or "Top Secret" is that same federal government procedure you just referred to. You cannot say the procedure to classify something in the first place must be honored, but then go and claim that the process for declassifying something does not need to be honored.
 
Old 08-16-2022, 07:21 PM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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Originally Posted by GreenBouy View Post
That certainly not true.

A document could be declassified and their could still be copies marked with classification markings that were never properly amended.
That's not what happened, though, according to the link James posted in #6531.
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