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Originally Posted by ansible90
So according to you, Trump did not illegally steal those documents and take them home. Or maybe he did steal them but it's ok because it is Trump.
If he did "steal" them then he'll be charged for it.
But we don't know at this point if he'd actually taken them and/or if he'd even known that they were there until NARA said something. We know it goes against your grain to ignore your media and their anonymous sources filling your head, but it is what it is...we don't know anything at this point. Y'all don't seem to get that fact.
If he did "steal" them then he'll be charged for it.
But we don't know at this point if he'd actually taken them and/or if he'd even known that they were there until NARA said something. We know it goes against your grain to ignore your media and their anonymous sources filling your head, but it is what it is...we don't know anything at this point. Y'all don't seem to get that fact.
The unredacted contents of the search warrant indicate that Trump knew he had documents he was not entitled to have and did not give them back when asked to do so. And while the public does not yet know who provided the info about the documents, the judge does. There's a lot more going on here than the "media and their anonymous sources" reporting a story.
If he did "steal" them then he'll be charged for it.
But we don't know at this point if he'd actually taken them and/or if he'd even known that they were there until NARA said something. We know it goes against your grain to ignore your media and their anonymous sources filling your head, but it is what it is...we don't know anything at this point. Y'all don't seem to get that fact.
ummm, the affidavit for the search warrant was published widely today, and the search warrant was out weeks ago. You might not know anything at this point, but people paying attention have learned a lot of actual facts. They aren't good for Trump fans, which may explain why they don't seem to stick in your head.
I have finally seen enough. Donald Trump will be indicted by a federal grand jury.
You heard me right: I believe Trump will actually be indicted for a criminal offense. Even with all its redactions, the probable cause affidavit published today by the magistrate judge in Florida makes clear to me three essential points:
Even if Trump did something that was indictable, it would have to be so over the top, so Nixonesque and Clintoneque, so as to involve Republican support.
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Originally Posted by marcopolo
ummm, the affidavit for the search warrant was published widely today, and the search warrant was out weeks ago. You might not know anything at this point, but people paying attention have learned a lot of actual facts. They aren't good for Trump fans, which may explain why they don't seem to stick in your head.
Meanwhile, unverified rumors by anonymous sources sticks in your head, eh?
As much as I despise Trump (well before he became President) I am still hesitant to believe that he would be so down right evil as to pass any info on to any foreign source but then I can't get that out of my mind that would have been the end result.
I have no problems believing anything said about Trump.
Trump has demonstrated he has no conscience, no humanity, and no loyalty to anyone but himself and the almighty dollar. Everyone and everything is expendable to him as long as he always gets what he wants. I wouldn’t put anything past him, regardless of how odious it might be to a moral and ethical being. That includes treason for profit.
The overriding concern needs to be finding out what his intentions were for the records he stole.
No former president has ever been charged with a crime, with recent commanders-in-chief choosing instead to block potential prosecutions of their predecessors.
In 1974, one month after former President Richard Nixon resigned over the Watergate scandal, then-President Gerald Ford — who took office declaring that “our long national nightmare is over” — granted Nixon a “full, free and absolute” pardon for any crimes he may have committed while in office.
In 2009, then-President-elect Barack Obama also ruled out investigations of outgoing President George W. Bush and his administration over domestic eavesdropping and the harsh interrogations of terror suspects, saying he believed “that we need to look forward as opposed to looking backwards.”
There’s been speculation that President Biden might pardon Trump, possibly as part of a deal to keep him from running again in 2024.
But even if it were offered, Trump could reject a pardon.
Who said it was them who'd looked at them while weeding out what was Trump's and what needed to go back? No one said it.
Who do you think did that, and why the ones that you're thinking of?
Has your media not already told you who'd done it, no anonymous sources or anything?
The Case Team at FBI headquarters is the first place seized property goes to be evaluated by agents with top secret clearances. After the weedout the investigators get the results to determine what sort of evidence was found.
Just the absurdity that a president used his country club as a regular weekend retreat and for meeting with foreign powers shows how little he cares about security. Adding in government classified documents to a location with easy access for outsiders just adds to his total disregard for security.
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Originally Posted by cuebald
The Case Team at FBI headquarters is the first place seized property goes to be evaluated by agents with top secret clearances. After the weedout the investigators get the results to determine what sort of evidence was found.
^has absolutely nothing to do with what was being discussed.
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