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Old 08-28-2022, 08:04 AM
 
Location: Retired in VT; previously MD & NJ
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Any trial that proceeds without everyone reviewing those docs is a kangaroo trial.
It Trump's people tried to assert that a classified document was part of an attorney- client conversation, they would have to also show that the attorney had a security clearance with "need to know" on the document's subject matter. It is doubtful any of his personal lawyers had clearances. Trump cannot admit he shared any classified documents with his personal lawyers.

 
Old 08-28-2022, 08:06 AM
 
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If someone raids my premises they’d find many things not incriminating but things I’d not want made public or to even other hostile parties who could proceed to leak
Sure, we all have secrets.

Or, maybe things we didn't think were incriminating at one time, but now we think might be.

If reporting that staff basically ran out of time to pack in an orderly fashion can be believed, and they just shoved everything left into boxes what was most likely to be laying around the oval at that time?
 
Old 08-28-2022, 08:07 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Why did Trump's attorney report on TV that Trump was watching the search through those security cameras?
If he did so, it's because they didn't turn off the security cameras. No sane person would. Why did the FBI ask that they be turned off? What are they trying to hide?
 
Old 08-28-2022, 08:07 AM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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I disagree. The special master will get nowhere near those classified documents. Those documents would have nothing to do with attorney-client privilege.
You could be right, The classified documents could be returned to NARA and nothing left to review from the boxes besides the photos, newspaper clippings, and Big Mac wrappers.
 
Old 08-28-2022, 08:08 AM
 
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If he did so, it's because they didn't turn off the security cameras. No sane person would. Why did the FBI ask that they be turned off? What are they trying to hide?
The faces of agents.
 
Old 08-28-2022, 08:15 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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The faces of agents.
Not good enough. Faces can be blurred in any released video. LEOs have body cams and dashboard cams so their actions can be monitored to disincentivize any potential abuse or illegal activity. This is no different.
 
Old 08-28-2022, 08:22 AM
 
Location: Wisco Disco
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There's been a few posts in here about it, obviously by those who believe anonymous sources without question.

Anyway, here's a media link to it:

https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/11/polit...nts/index.html
Thank you. So trumps gripe is with unnamed sources mentioned in WP. Big victory for him. Until we get more info from real sources.
 
Old 08-28-2022, 08:27 AM
 
Location: Wisco Disco
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One type of sci is HUMINT which is related to CIA covert intelligence-gathering by agents or others.

Not the type of information that should be in a country club storage room
With a padlock.

Furthermore TRUMP no longer has security clearance as of January 20th,2022
You might want to check that date.
 
Old 08-28-2022, 08:38 AM
 
Location: 23.7 million to 162 million miles North of Venus
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It proves their patience and the fact that they obviously didn't want to go to this extreme.
Do you even realize how silly you sound?
"Nuclear secrets"(?) that could harm the country, and they sit on their hands? They knew Trump was working with them to locate and return the docs, they could have been diplomatic and offered to send a team in to help look for these so-called documents last year, but apparently, they did not do that. They didn't do that because there were no 'nuclear secrets' that could harm the country in those boxes.

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Trump on the other hand wanted this fight and didn't care about the impact on the nation. The multiple June meetings were the final straw particularly when they falsely claimed they turned over all the documents even after the subpoena.
Yeah sure "Trump wanted this fight"

He had cooperated. The feds finally did send in people in June. They also looked, found a few things and then left. Trump was cooperating with them at that point and was giving them all the time that they needed. Why did the feds intentionally leave things behind when there was absolutely nothing stopping them from continuing to search and taking what they'd found?

Had the feds given the lawyers the impression that there was nothing left to find, which was why the lawyer said "To the best of my knowledge there is nothing more"? Most likely.

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Now there is a special master to review the documents, now the Trump supporters can find some reason to believe he is part of the deep state.
Good. Since the feds didn't bother following the law, Rule 41(f)(1)(B), and Trump has no idea what they'd taken, it's good that this judge seems to want this review to happen.


"nuclear secrets", yeah sure, the Senate Intelligence Committee wasn't even aware of it.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...d87c67530692b6


Most likely the only "nuclear secrets" that Trump had were "extra copies" of the declassified Crossfire Hurricane documents. The dems probably equate those papers to nuclear secrets since it would make them implode if the public became aware of the underhanded things that they'd done.
 
Old 08-28-2022, 08:53 AM
 
Location: 23.7 million to 162 million miles North of Venus
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Thank you. So trumps gripe is with unnamed sources mentioned in WP. Big victory for him. Until we get more info from real sources.
Suddenly those on the left care about real sources?

Seems the Senate Intelligence Committee has the same "gripe" that Trump has, since the federal investigators didn't bother to inform the SIC about it. tsk, tsk.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...d87c67530692b6
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