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Old 08-09-2022, 09:34 AM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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You are unique here in that you are actually "thinking", and using four syllable words. The rabble in the P&OC echo chamber let Trump and Faux News do the thinking for them, it's simpler and easier for them that way.

But to your point, only the top levels of the DOJ could have authorized prosecutors to seek a search warrant for a former President. This would require approval from the highest ranks.

Since the FBI executed a search warrant, it supported the probable cause with evidence that satisfied a federal judge. That affidavit is currently is under seal, but it would lay out the crimes that the DOJ believes were committed, and why there is probable cause to believe that evidence of those crimes would be found at Mar-a-Lago. Either a United States magistrate judge or a United States district judge would have reviewed the affidavit and issued the warrant.

As the poster above in #859 points out - many of these were Trump appointees. The idea that our DOJ and our Federal courts are colluding in an elaborate "deep state" conspiracy to target Trump is the sheerest lunacy.

One lesson that Trump has taught his puppets well is that if you are going to lie - go big. So it's really no surprise.
The only surprise coming now is which day the first indictment actually drops.

 
Old 08-09-2022, 09:34 AM
 
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Democrats don't care about legal. They just want to tie him up in the court system and keep him from running again.
They are trying to pull off a scam to fabricate a felony. If they can successfully do that, it would prevent Trump from ever running again.

That’s their strategy. And if they do pull it off, Desantis will be next in line for the witch-hunt.
 
Old 08-09-2022, 09:34 AM
 
Location: Retired in VT; previously MD & NJ
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Legalities. Clearly something you know nothing about. If you know nothing, why post rubbish and waste bandwidth?
Why do you think Trump would not be allowed to publish the warrant? On what legal grounds?
 
Old 08-09-2022, 09:35 AM
 
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I hate to say it but I worry about Trump's safety. The left are so desperate and I wouldn't put it past them to harm him if what happened tonight doesn't work in their favor. I just hope Trump keeps close to his bodyguards and gets a few extra to protect him. We've all witnessed just how desperate the left are to get him out of their way.

It's amazing the lengths Washington will go to keep an outsider out of the swamp. As George Carlin said: "It's one big club and you aint in it."
 
Old 08-09-2022, 09:36 AM
 
Location: Brackenwood
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I'm astonished, though I don't suppose I should be. In any case it's unconscionable to raid the home of a former President and future potential candidate against the sitting President without a special prosecutor involved. That to me is the biggest giveaway this is a political witch hunt and not a bona fide criminal investigation.
 
Old 08-09-2022, 09:37 AM
Status: "Smartened up and walked away!" (set 26 days ago)
 
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Deflection noted.
How is this deflection - pointing out that those situations which I consider worse did not involve the FBI raiding residences is important and shows the discrepancies on how the left does not dole out justice equally. Most know I'm a Democrat and I can't see why other Democrats aren't concerned about this issue.

If the Dems overstep their bounds now - expect the Republicans to do the same when they are in power - then you all will be complaining about it. Everyone has to treat both situations equally and the Dems would be in a better position if they did weed out the bad from the good when it comes to their own party.
 
Old 08-09-2022, 09:37 AM
 
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First of all, this was not a "FISA warrant." Do you even know what a FISA warrant is? It is a warrant authorizing electronic surveillance of foreign agents, and it is reviewed by a court that is specially appointed to review such warrants.

You can bet this search warrant for a former president's residence was scrutinized and quadruple checked to make sure there was more than ample probable cause to support the allegation that there was evidence of a crime at that location.
Crock o’ bs. They talked about impeaching Trump before he was ever elected. Neither party wanted him. He was a career politician/political *ss kisser.

This is clear abuse of power. Convince anyone that you don’t know that.
 
Old 08-09-2022, 09:37 AM
 
Location: Retired in VT; previously MD & NJ
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Originally Posted by RowingFiend View Post
Except:
  • Hillary Clinton
  • James Comey
  • Eric Holder
  • James Klapper
  • Andrew McCabe
  • Hunter Biden
  • Andrew Cuomo
  • John Brennan
  • Peter Strzok
  • Any BLM Rioter
  • Any Antifa Terrorist
  • Any criminal who commits property crime in a blue city with a Soros prosecutor
So why didn't Trump hold any of them accountable when he had the chance? (Not including the last 3 which would be local issues)
 
Old 08-09-2022, 09:37 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Why do you think Trump would not be allowed to publish the warrant? On what legal grounds?
There are none....he can show every word of the warrant and the inventory of everything the DOJ took.
 
Old 08-09-2022, 09:37 AM
 
Location: Spain
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Have you lost the capacity to think? Can you not see the pattern that’s been nonstop for the past 5 years? The proven false fabrications of documents, and the number of perjuries that have not been prosecuted? The phony dossiers, the doctored evidence, the lies told in congressional hearings, and the lies told to the FISA Court to secure an illegal warrant to spy on a presidential campaign?

This is “banana republic” type behavior, and you seem incapable of a single rational thought of your own. It’s just more drooling “orange man bad” like a droning symphony of leftwing idiocy.
Well there was obviously there is a federal judge who actually saw the evidence presented by DOJ and signed a warrant based on their opinion that there was sufficient evidence to do this raid and seizure.

You have presented zero to prove this wasn't a legitimate search\, other than babbling about how your hero is persecuted and anyone who disagrees is dumb. You have zero information here, other than the guy on your team is in trouble so something must be wrong, and apparently this judge with far more legal experience that any keyboard warrior on CD must be in on it too right?

We've already seen the routine a million times where anyone who doesn't tow the line with you hero is automatically biased, stupid, part of the conspiracy, a traitor, whatever even if they were part of the hero club the year before.

You have nothing but kneejerk disbelief.
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