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Old 09-01-2022, 09:36 AM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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I'm sure Garland will have no trouble at all indicting his attorneys. He'll have heartburn when it comes to Trump, but not to them.
I don't think it will bother him. I think he'll be like Truman when he gave the order to drop the bomb - speak his piece and get a good night's sleep confident in his decision.

 
Old 09-01-2022, 09:37 AM
 
Location: Texas
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It doesn't have to consensual, lol. However, the FBI were allowed into Mar-A-Lago.

You ever hear of someone saying you can't search my car, home, etc., unless you get a warrant? Well, a warrant kinda overrides their objections. That's how the law works.
Keep up, that was in reference to the June meeting where trumps attorneys wouldn’t allow them to consensual search the boxes in the storage room.
 
Old 09-01-2022, 09:39 AM
 
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Keep up, that was in reference to the June meeting where trumps attorneys wouldn’t allow them to consensual search the boxes in the storage room.
Then I guess the fact that they were able to get a search warrant overrides the need for the search to be consensual doesn't it?
 
Old 09-01-2022, 09:40 AM
 
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I don't think it will bother him. I think he'll be like Truman when he gave the order to drop the bomb - speak his piece and get a good night's sleep confident in his decision.
Hope so. The evidence is glaring and hard to ignore.
 
Old 09-01-2022, 09:41 AM
 
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That was not the claim in the letter, it was that no “classified information/documents” were at MAL.

There’s a reason why 18 USC 1924 isn’t being tossed around. Theres a reason why in the affidavit the DOJ refers to the documents as “ documents bearing classification markings, which appear to contain National Defense Information (NDI).

I think it’s safe to say the DOJ recognizes these documents are declassified and they are reaching for the DNI angle, otherwise they would just go after a 1924 violation.

Is trump innocent, probably not, but this case will be difficult to prosecute.
From what I understand, nowhere in Trump's latest motion does he assert that the documents were declassified.
 
Old 09-01-2022, 09:43 AM
 
Location: Lyon, France, Whidbey Island WA
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Read it and weep defenders of the plutocracy.

"The United States Attorney’s Office, has filed an extraordinary document with this Court, suggesting that the DOJ, and the DOJ alone, should be entrusted with the responsibility of evaluating its unjustified pursuit of criminalizing a former President’s possession of personal and Presidential records in a secure setting," Trump's lawyers wrote.

"The Government twists the framework of responding to a motion for a Special Master into an all-encompassing challenge to any judicial consideration, presently or in the future, of any aspect of its unprecedented behavior in this investigation," Trump's lawyers continued.
 
Old 09-01-2022, 09:45 AM
 
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Donald Trump appears likely to be indicted, according to former Fox News legal analyst Andrew Napolitano, for a crime the former president believes should be punishable by death.

FULL ARTICLE
 
Old 09-01-2022, 09:47 AM
 
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The FBI investigation into top-secret government information discovered at Mar-a-Lago is zeroing in on the question of whether former President Donald Trump’s team criminally obstructed the probe. A new document alleges that government records had been concealed and removed and that law enforcement officials were misled about what was still there.

The allegation does not necessarily mean that Trump or anyone else will ultimately face charges. But it could pose the most direct legal threat to Trump or those in his orbit, in part because the Justice Department has historically viewed obstruction as an aggravating factor that tilts in favor of bringing charges in investigations involving the mishandling of classified information.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/obstr...b065bfc4b4df10
 
Old 09-01-2022, 09:52 AM
 
Location: Retired in VT; previously MD & NJ
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Read it and weep defenders of the plutocracy.

"The United States Attorney’s Office, has filed an extraordinary document with this Court, suggesting that the DOJ, and the DOJ alone, should be entrusted with the responsibility of evaluating its unjustified pursuit of criminalizing a former President’s possession of personal and Presidential records in a secure setting," Trump's lawyers wrote.

"The Government twists the framework of responding to a motion for a Special Master into an all-encompassing challenge to any judicial consideration, presently or in the future, of any aspect of its unprecedented behavior in this investigation," Trump's lawyers continued.
Where was the secure setting where the documents were kept? In Trump's desk drawer in an office that had many visitors? Or the documents in the padlocked storage room next to the hotel pool? Which secure location are they speaking of?

Not to mention that Trump had no right to keep those documents in the first place. The unprecedented behavior was from Trump, not the government.
 
Old 09-01-2022, 09:52 AM
 
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Republicans notably silent, split as Trump probe deepens

WASHINGTON (AP) — At first, Republicans were highly critical of the FBI search of Donald Trump's Mar-a-Lago resort, but as new details emerge about the more than 100 classified documents the former president haphazardly stashed at his private club Republicans have grown notably silent.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...3eda34f2b3107a

Yep. It's over for Donny.

Laura Ingraham, Alex Jones, and several other prominent conservatives have already moved on from Trump. The longer Donald hangs around in the headlines with indictments likely coming, the more it hurts Repubs in the mid-terms

Let's hope Donny can't/doesn't run for office in 2024, and he tells his 40,000,000 or so blind loyalists to not vote at all and let the GOP get pummeled in 2024 Donald Trump is that petty and childish, so let's hope it happens
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