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Originally Posted by Marlow
Of course the burden of proof is on the prosecution. If they indict him, they'll have to prove their case beyond a reasonable doubt. No one disputes that.
I guess you hadn't been reading some of the posts in here.
There's evidence that Trump had declassified them (links were previously provided in this thread). If the feds claim or intimate that they are classified, then they must meet the burden of proof of what they claim. How do people not know this fact?
The criminal acts specified in the search warrant do not require that the documents are classified. How do YOU not know THAT fact?
No one believes his nonsense about declassifying them. It takes more then his just saying it.
Classified or not, it's still up to the feds to prove their claim, which they hadn't done so far.
The legal system does not run on the 24-hour news cycle.
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I guess it would take some random leftist media 'anonymous source saying so' for you and other leftists to think it might be possible.
It would have helped Trump's credibility if Mark Meadows hadn't argued in 2020 that of course Trump merely tweeting that a document was declassified doesn't mean it's actually declassified, silly libs.
Anyway, Legal Eagle - who's a pretty smart law-talkin' guy - provides some historical background and case law, but you're not going to like it.
So let's say he declassified some or all of them, even though neither he nor his attorneys claim that, AND he's also not entitled to have them at MaL or anywhere else because they don't belong to him.
In that situation, a crime or crimes have still been committed.
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Originally Posted by Dane_in_LA
The legal system does not run on the 24-hour news cycle.
^which has absolutely nothing to do with what I'd said in my comment that you'd quoted.
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It would have helped Trump's credibility if Mark Meadows hadn't argued in 2020 that of courseTrump merely tweeting that a document was declassified doesn't mean it's actually declassified, silly libs.
Anyway, Legal Eagle - who's a pretty smart law-talkin' guy - provides some historical background and case law, but you're not going to like it.
"Merely tweeting"? Who is saying that's all he'd done, except you? I'd previously posted links, that are more than to just tweets, in fact, I don't think I'd posted a twitter link for that matter.
We will have to wait to see if they can prove what they claim under those statutes, and so far they have not done that.
Since it appears that Garland is suggesting halting this until after the midterms, it might be a long wait. Other than the DOJ and FBI leaking(whatever they feel will work in their favor, truth or not or a twisted version) there probably won't be much to go on over the next couple of months.
Of course they haven't proved anything yet. They haven't indicted Trump for anything at this point. If and when they do that, they'll have the burden of proof.
And they don't have to prove anything to Trump loyalists. They only have to prove it to a jury.
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Originally Posted by Marlow
Of course they haven't proved anything yet. They haven't indicted Trump for anything at this point. If and when they do that, they'll have the burden of proof.
And they don't have to prove anything to Trump loyalists. They only have to prove it to a jury.
It appears that they've had all of the "evidence" for a while now and they know what they have, or don't have. And I'm sure they have more than one person working on it. Most likely they could have already indicted him if the evidence proves their point. They still have about 8 days before the cutoff to the midterms, do you think they'll indict him over the next few days?
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